A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[-Jrabbit]

Favorite character so far: the dwarf, hands down.

[a.kitman]

my answers is freddy. and thats where i stop working today.

[DirtyMartini]

He didn't win. He's making fancy econonmics arguments to defend a practice that is, on its face, wrong.

Objective "fancy econonmics arguments" > subjective moralistic blather

Tell that to the prison guard when you run out of cigarettes to pay for safe shower time.

[a.kitman]

I openly stated at the beginning that a proper moral framework should to some degree respect copyright. I objected strongly to equating piracy with theft, when they are very distinct.

so what is a "proper moral framwork"? and "to some degree respect copyright". guy is basicly trying to answer thos questions his just being less pretentious and more pragmatic.

[Kuciwalker]

its pretty easy to ask questions and find holes. but i would like mister kuciwalker to actaully say something. he is nowhere near a solution to guys dilemma.

I openly stated at the beginning that a proper moral framework should to some degree respect copyright. I objected strongly to equating piracy with theft, when they are very distinct.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

He didn't win. He's making fancy econonmics arguments to defend a practice that is, on its face, wrong.

It's abundantly clear that I don't know jack about economics or law, but it seems to me that whether or not intellectual property is technically different from theft is irrelevant. The economic system in which we all function assumes that intellectual property will be respected, otherwise, there is no benefit in putting forth the considerable effort required to create, for example, a book.

The problem, as has been mentioned, is with how long should it be respected. I'm not going to argue for an instant free-for-all, but life+70 is just ridiculous whether you want to approach it economically, socially, or morally.

[a.kitman]

put up or shut up tupac.

[Tupac Shakur]

He didn't win. He's making fancy econonmics arguments to defend a practice that is, on its face, wrong.

Objective "fancy econonmics arguments" > subjective moralistic blather

It's abundantly clear that I don't know jack about economics

Agreed.

[a.kitman]

its pretty easy to ask questions and find holes. but i would like mister kuciwalker to actaully say something. he is nowhere near a solution to guys dilemma.

[DirtyMartini]

He didn't win. He's making fancy econonmics arguments to defend a practice that is, on its face, wrong.

It's abundantly clear that I don't know jack about economics or law, but it seems to me that whether or not intellectual property is technically different from theft is irrelevant. The economic system in which we all function assumes that intellectual property will be respected, otherwise, there is no benefit in putting forth the considerable effort required to create, for example, a book.

If one disagrees, one is free to place yourself outside that system and pirate away, but society will eventually remove one to an entirely different economic system in which cigarretes and sodomy rights are the only property with which one need concern oneself.

[Tupac Shakur]

That's probably for the best, since Kuci clearly won. #198 and #199 were particularly good posts.

This is about right and wrong. It is wrong to take something--anything--that doesn't belong to you, wasn't given or lent to you, without paying for it. Full stop. The end. Fin. Period. Exclamation point. SEMICOLON!

Dude, you've clearly been living with a libertarian for too long...

[Guynemer]

Actually, don't bother. I'm done with this conversation.

[Tuberski]

Take this pointless discussion to another thread, this is about Game of Thrones.

Nerds.

ACK!

[Kuciwalker]

The store pays a lot more than a few cents to stock a Core 2.

Also, much (most?) of the price of a processor is for the capital investment in fabs (not something that can be pirated) rather than the R&D.

[Hauldren Collider]

Actually a better analogy would be stealing chips from Intel, Felch. Do you think it costs $150 to make a Core 2 Duo? No, it takes a few cents. But it took millions to figure out how to make it. But if you take one from the store it is still theft, even though it's like copying a song--the cost to make an additional processor is almost negligible.