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  • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
    How is it that Dantos, the King's fool seemed to know what was happening before anyone else did?
    Did you for a moment believe anyone in King's Landing except Sansa is an innocent fool?
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    • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
      I'm curious about that actually. We the readers have more information than the viewers, so we knew what to look for. But was it so obvious to the casual viewer?
      No. And it's only "obvious" to the readers because they've had a certain storyline spoon-fed to them.

      Presumably it was poison- but was it in the pie, or one of the two drinks he was seen drinking? Or was it slipped to him at the earlier breakfast? Was it slow-acting or fast-acting? We don't know.

      Cue book-readers going "AHAHAHAHAHA, FOOLISH MORTAL! IT WAS OBVIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT Grrr MARTIN SAID!".

      Anyway, my money is on Tywin doing it.
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      • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
        How is it that Dantos, the King's fool seemed to know what was happening before anyone else did?
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        An interesting question. It's almost like he knew the king would die and how the poison was smuggled in, wasn't it?
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        • Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
          Dontos is actually Paladine.
          We can definitively say that is not true.
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          • Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
            Spoiler:
            indeed, and at the 1st sign the king was choking he's taking the Stark girl away
            Spoiler:
            I wonder why that was? OK, not really.
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            • There is also one of those extraneous book details which reg hates so much. It's buried in seemingly innocent text which he, no doubt, glossed over several books ago but which now turn out to be crucial. Reg needs to die in a fire like the rest of the kuchibros with low attention spans.
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              • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                No. And it's only "obvious" to the readers because they've had a certain storyline spoon-fed to them.

                Presumably it was poison- but was it in the pie, or one of the two drinks he was seen drinking? Or was it slipped to him at the earlier breakfast? Was it slow-acting or fast-acting? We don't know.

                Cue book-readers going "AHAHAHAHAHA, FOOLISH MORTAL! IT WAS OBVIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT Grrr MARTIN SAID!".

                Anyway, my money is on Tywin doing it.
                All those nice little details about poisons and how they act. It would have been nice if someone had bothered to tell us about them, huh? Any way, lots of possibilities.
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                • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                  No. And it's only "obvious" to the readers because they've had a certain storyline spoon-fed to them.

                  Presumably it was poison- but was it in the pie, or one of the two drinks he was seen drinking? Or was it slipped to him at the earlier breakfast? Was it slow-acting or fast-acting? We don't know.

                  Cue book-readers going "AHAHAHAHAHA, FOOLISH MORTAL! IT WAS OBVIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT Grrr MARTIN SAID!".

                  Anyway, my money is on Tywin doing it.
                  Oo, biting.

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                  There were a few different theories as to who killed Joffrey. This episode provided pretty solid circumstantial evidence about one of those theories. No, the evidence in this past episode wasn't obvious, which is why I was curious about whether non-book-readers had noticed.
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                  • All I can say, is that I read the books, (not all of them but at least up to this point) but it was so long ago I don't remember all the details so I had an idea about it but wasn't sure. After the comments here that there were enough clues in the show, I went back and skimmed the books to see, and then me and my wife rewatched the episode. You can't tell watching the show unless you know what happened and even then it's pretty damn subtle.
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                    • Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                      There is also one of those extraneous book details which reg hates so much. It's buried in seemingly innocent text which he, no doubt, glossed over several books ago but which now turn out to be crucial. Reg needs to die in a fire like the rest of the kuchibros with low attention spans.
                      Jesus Christ when did I ever complain about the book's detail?

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                      • Dontos really needed another scene to, it would have put book readers and show watches much closer together.
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                        • "die in a fire" is a rather harsh sentence for having a different opinion about a book. You'd think Oerdin was a member of the Taliban talking about the Quran.
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                          • Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                            I dunno. I kinda liked Paul Blackthorne in that role. Or were you talking about the actress that played Lt. Karin Murphy? She played it well enough but I never really bought her as a Chicago cop. Was still pissed when Sci Fi cancelled it though. Never really understood that decision. I thought it had good ratings given the network it was on.

                            Let' see... Harry is a 6 foot plus LARGE guy who gets physical. And while I really do like Paul Blackthorne, and will admit he played the role well, HE WASN'T HARRY.
                            And not only did she not look like a tough Chicago Cop, she had the wrong hair color.

                            But besides those "little" problems, I still liked that show and was also very pissed when the deep sixed it.
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                              • Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                                Jesus Christ when did I ever complain about the book's detail?
                                Sorry, I guess it was your brother who did that. You two start to blend together in my mind sometimes.
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