A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Hauldren Collider]

by the time the show is done, Arya is gonna look like her mom

[Dinner]

There are some good indicators out there that Winds of Winter will be released in 2014.
A good friend of George R.R. Martin has said (most probably by accident) that George had one new episode almost finished.
He has also cleared up his schedule for the next coming months.
There is more.

So let's go with the 2014 release for Winds of Winter, and then a 2017 release for Dream of Spring (same 3 year gap)
Then we have:
2014: Season 4: Book 3b / Book 6 released
2015: Season 5: Book 4/5
2016: Season 6: Book 6
2017: Season 7: Book 7 / Book 7 released

If HBO decides to split Book 4/5 somehow into 2 seasons (2015 book 4a/5a, 2016 book 4b/5b) then we're certainly safe. It's also possible that book 6 needs 2 seasons, or book 4/5/6 need 3 seasons in total.

If the rumors are true, and Winds is indeed released in 2014 and Martin can manage the release the last book in 2017, then we're looking at a photo finish between book and series. (And of course Martin can then already spill the beans to HBO while writing, so that the last season is in line with the book)

I absolutely certainly hope to finish the books for the series.
I doubt that it'll be possible to not spoil myself while waiting for the books while the series are already finished....

He supposedly had most of the Winds of Winter written when a Dance with Dragons was released as he had to cut a Dance with Dragons in half. I truly hope it is released in 2014 but given the man's track record and the fact that his Not A Blog shows him doing a million and one things other than writing the ****ing book everyone wants... Well, I wouldn't be surprised to see Book 6 come out in 2020.

[DinoDoc]

He supposedly had most of the Winds of Winter written when a Dance with Dragons was released as he had to cut a Dance with Dragons in half. I truly hope it is released in 2014 but given the man's track record and the fact that his Not A Blog shows him doing a million and one things other than writing the ****ing book everyone wants... Well, I wouldn't be surprised to see Book 6 come out in 2020.

So how soon will the show be forced to start deciding what happens on its own?

[Robert]

so you're thinking they're going to condense about two thousand pages into a single season, when they split book 3 into two seasons?

are you high? i get that they might 'combine' books four and five, but that's... at least three seasons worth of material, minimum.

book 4/5 aren't as action packed as book 3 was.
It's assumed by most that it'll be 1 season.

[Hauldren Collider]

More importantly, they both sucked. Still, there's enough stuff to mandate more than one season.

[Imran Siddiqui]

book 4/5 aren't as action packed as book 3 was.
It's assumed by most that it'll be 1 season.

There are still a ton that happens in them. Far, far more than half a season each. It's going to be 2 seasons. 1.5 at least.

[Dinner]

So how soon will the show be forced to start deciding what happens on its own?

There are five books out right now so it would start happening as soon as they run out of five books worth of material. I believe they got half way through book three in season 3 so if they really slow stuff down they could do half a book per season (which would be screwed up as the kids would get too old for their roles) but if they did that they could potentially go five more seasons. The first two seasons were a book each and that seemed the right pace though the TV show may have trouble dealing with the Mureen Knot where GRRM had two different books covering two different story lines but both happening at the same time. I image the TV show can't do that so they'd have to integrate book four and five showing half of each for two seasons. Other wise viewers might get confused about the order of events.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Meereenese Knot

[Dinner]

There are still a ton that happens in them. Far, far more than half a season each. It's going to be 2 seasons. 1.5 at least.

Plus the books get bigger and bigger as they go on. The first two books were relatively dainty compared to books four and five so you'd kind of figure it would take more air time to cover a 1200 page book than a 600 page book but I guess it depends on how much they cut out.

[Dinner]

Meereenese Knot

Opps.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Plus the books get bigger and bigger as they go on. The first two books were relatively dainty compared to books four and five so you'd kind of figure it would take more air time to cover a 1200 page book than a 600 page book but I guess it depends on how much they cut out.

Technically, A Feast for Crows is shorter than A Clash of Kings (but longer than A Game of Thrones), but A Dance With Dragons is the longest of the all (of course the last 1/5th of Dance ends the storyline of A Feast for Crows as well).

[Guynemer]

More importantly, they both sucked. Still, there's enough stuff to mandate more than one season.

Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

I love book 4.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The end of Dance was good as well. But the first 2/3rd (at least) of it was a bore.

The end of Dance starts to approach the heights of the first three.

[Dinner]

More importantly, they both sucked. Still, there's enough stuff to mandate more than one season.

That didn't suck but they did have a lot of setting things up and introducing the key people for the next war.

[Dinner]

The end of Dance was good as well. But the first 2/3rd (at least) of it was a bore.

The end of Dance starts to approach the heights of the first three.

Yeah, it has the biggest cliff hanger of the whole series so far with some really involved stuff going on but some how GRRM keeps it all interesting. The last part of that book is a gold mine of information which people can use to prove or disprove just about any theory they have.