A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Guynemer]

His existence isn't to please you, DaShi. It is his world, these are his books, he does not have a boss. He can write them whenever he damn well pleases.

[Lorizael]

His boss is probably Bantam Spectra.

[DaShi]

His existence isn't to please you, DaShi. It is his world, these are his books, he does not have a boss. He can write them whenever he damn well pleases.

That's not what I mean. I mean, that to be a full-time writer is a lot like running your own business. Just because you are your own boss, doesn't mean that you don't have to complete work or don't have deadlines.

Yes, he's free to write whenever he pleases. However, if he doesn't produce timely work, it's going to hit him financially. I've seen too many writers who couldn't make it simply because they lacked self-management skills. Writing is a full time job. After you've written a successful book, it does become harder, because you have a lot more things to attend to than just researching and writing. Martin is certainly very busy beyond writing.

Now it could be that he's made all the money he'll ever need and doesn't care about the latter books anymore.

[Robert]

GRRM knows that these books are the ones he'll be remembered for, and he knows that he needs to finish them.
He clearly has a hard time finishing them, but I can't believe that he isn't trying his very best.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Oh, I don't know. He could be another Douglas "Chronic procrastinator" Adams.

"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by."- Douglas Adams.

[Hauldren Collider]

I think he might have stopped caring or written himself into a corner. Honestly, I think his writing is mediocre. He's very imaginative, and the detail of the world he creates is mostly what makes the books fun, but his characters and plots largely aren't interesting. There are a few winners, sure, but most are totally forgettable.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Next book, in full-

"Chapter 1.

And then Ned Stark woke up and realised it had all been a dream.

The End."

[Imran Siddiqui]

I notice that HBO might NOT even wait for him to finish it and do it themselves if he takes too long...

Oh Hell. That's going to lead to numerous insufferable internet threads on "WHICH ENDING IS BETTER: HBO'S OR GRRM'S"

[Ming]

Oh Hell. That's going to lead to numerous insufferable internet threads on "WHICH ENDING IS BETTER: HBO'S OR GRRM'S"

That would require GRRM actually writing an ending

[regexcellent]

Don't worry he'll probably die first; no arguments to be had then. He's only a year younger than Clancy.

[Dinner]

And Clancy was relatively in shape where as Martin is badly over weight. NPR mentioned that just climbing stairs to the second story of his newly remodeled 100 year old single screen movie theater left him huffing and out of breath.

[Robert]

I think he might have stopped caring or written himself into a corner. Honestly, I think his writing is mediocre. He's very imaginative, and the detail of the world he creates is mostly what makes the books fun, but his characters and plots largely aren't interesting. There are a few winners, sure, but most are totally forgettable.

What makes his books most fun are the hidden plots, the puzzles, the hints, the foreshadowing, the unpredictable plots. There's so much going on in these books that you miss on first read or casual read. I can imagine that that's not a cup of thee for everyone, but it makes his work really epic and great.
The rich details make it more real, but also a tad bit boring imho.

He had painted himself into a corner, but with the end of ADWD he got out of that.
The hardest part were the latest 2 books, which was the 'bridge' between the 2 parts of the original idea, which in the early concept of GRRM would be seperated by a 5 years gap. He then got rid of the gap, and needed those 2 books to get from part A to B.

At first read those books weren't the best indeed, but still a very good read.
Now I'm on my 2nd read, and actually the books are a lot better!

Still wonder why that Quinten Martell had to be included.
I still don't see what it added to the story, and I have never read any serious reason anywhere on the web, and I've done quite some research.

[Hauldren Collider]

And Clancy was relatively in shape where as Martin is badly over weight. NPR mentioned that just climbing stairs to the second story of his newly remodeled 100 year old single screen movie theater left him huffing and out of breath.

Didn't Clancy smoke?

[Dinner]

Still wonder why that Quinten Martell had to be included.
I still don't see what it added to the story, and I have never read any serious reason anywhere on the web, and I've done quite some research.

The Martells, as rulers of Dorne, will play a big role in the coming war for control of Westeros.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Dorne does indeed seem to be very important to the ending. It appears Arianne Martell will try to link up with Aegon and Jon Connington and Dorne will link up with the Targaryens. I think Dorne's adventures with Myrcella and Quentin are supposed to indicate how much Dorne isn't that happy with the Usurpers' kingdom and rather would declare for Targaryens than anyone else. And Martin isn't going to introduce characters without giving an indepth backstory - he's as interested in creating a detailed world as he is about telling the story of the result of the Aerys's madness.

I like the series for as much as the detailed world as the plot. So I do enjoy the in depth treatment of Dorne - its one of my favorite locations in the series.