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  • #91
    Originally posted by BeBro View Post
    About colonialism? It's all teh evil here. But in school it gets overshadowed because we had not much colonies and ze Adolf was far more eviler.

    In serious research there is a more balanced view, it's certainly still viewed with lotsa criticism though. Dunno 'bout them other Yurpeens what they get taught in school...
    Interesting discussion. My memory could be failing me but I don't remember being taught in terms of "good" and "evil" in Sweden, except the Jewish holocaust and probably some of the communist atrocities. We learned about the triangle trade, American slavery and the Conference of Berlin, but it's all a bit haphazard and distant.

    Of course all of our colonies were tiny specks on the map like some forts in Ghana that we promptly lost to the Dutch, an island in the Caribbean, and some property on the Delaware river. The real victims of our 17-18th Century imperialism, i.e. Denmark, Norway, Germany and Poland that's a pretty glorious story with a tragic end but I've never met anyone who feels any shame over it.

    Instead, most of our historical "shame" is wrapped up into "not standing up to" first the Nazis (because that would have worked out well) and then the Soviets by returning to them refugee former SS from the Baltic countries after which they were promptly killed.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Kitschum View Post
      and some property on the Delaware river.
      Some property? Dude, that some property turned into the city of Philadelphia.

      This is the flag of the city of Philadelphia. Note the colors:

      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • #93
        Alrighty then to Philly

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        • #94


          The American Swedish Historical Museum is the oldest Swedish-American museum in the United States. It is located in Franklin Delano Roosevelt Park in the South Philadelphia neighborhood of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on part of a historic 17th-century land grant originally provided by Queen Christina of Sweden to settlers of New Sweden.[1]
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #95
            I like this hi-jack.

            Fun fact: The Bronx in NYC is named after Swedish settler, Jonas Bronck

            In June, 1639, Bronck navigated up the East River in a ship, De Brant Van Troyen (The Fire of Troy), and made home on a piece of land he had acquired from the Indians across the Harlem River from the village of Harlem.
            The paperwork he filled out in Amsterdam to secure this voyage is signed by Jonas Bronck using his patronym "Jonasson" indicating that his father's name was Jonas. It also provided the genealogical evidence that he was not the person that Danes had claimed for many years, who was the son of Morten Jespersen Bronck, a Danish minister in the Faroe Islands. Town names in this document also indicated that he was from Komstad, near Sävsjö, in Småland, Sweden.[citation needed]
            His farm (known as Bronck's Land, and then just Broncksland, or simply Bronck's), covered roughly the area south of today's 150th Street in the Bronx. The land was within the territory of the Siwanoy and Wecquaesgeek groups of Lenape who inhabited it at the time of colonialization.

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            • #96
              That just means that the Romans are at fault for not preemptively razing to ground and salting the earth of Great Britain.

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              • #97
                Speaking of British Imperialism, one of my relatives recently sent me this picture of some Sikh presidential palace guards in New Delhi. Their current dress uniforms look almost exactly like the original British Sikh regiment uniforms.

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                • #98
                  The Raj

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