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  • Guns kill 11 children in Rio

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    Brazil school shooting: 12 dead after gunman opens fire
    An undated handout photo of Wellington Menezes Oliveira The gunman reportedly left a letter, stating he wanted to commit suicide after the shooting
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    In pictures: Rio school shooting

    A man has opened fire in a school in the Brazilian city of Rio de Janeiro, leaving 12 people dead, officials say.

    It remains unclear whether the attacker, who is among the dead, was then killed by police or shot himself.

    The gunman was identified as a 23-year-old former pupil. Another 18 people were also injured in the shooting.

    Globo TV showed images of the victims being taken away by ambulance from the Escola Municipal Tasso da Silveira school in the western Realengo area.

    Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff later said she was "shocked" by the massacre.

    "Innocent children lost their lives and their future," she said, after observing a minute of silence for the victims.
    'Aiming at heads'

    "The person entered, and fired shots," a spokeswoman for Rio's police told Globo.

    The attacker - who was later identified as Wellington Menezes Oliveira - entered the school at about 0830 local time (1130 GMT).

    Globo said he had told school officials he was there to make a speech.

    He reportedly had two revolvers and a lot of ammunition. He opened fire aiming at victims' heads, killing 10 girls and a boy.

    It is still unclear whether the gunman then shot himself or was killed by the police, who arrived at the scene.

    Officials earlier said that 12 pupils and the gunmen had died in the shooting and at least 20 people had been injured.
    'Desperate and crying'

    Dorival Porto Rafael, a rubbish collector who was at the school at the time, told Globo online that the gunman walked into a class where students were studying Portuguese.

    "He came into the class saying he was going to give a talk. He went to an eighth-grade class, on the [ground floor], and without saying anything took out a pistol from his bag and started firing," Mr Rafael said.

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    The BBC's Paulo Cabral says hundreds of people are gathered outside the school

    "The police arrived and he tried to go up to the next floor, but when he saw he was surrounded he shot himself in the head," the eyewitness added.

    Rodrigo Alves Pereira, who lives in the area, told the BBC that he was in a shop near the school when he heard "a lot of shots coming from inside the school".

    "I went out and saw many children... coming out of the school. Some of them were covered in blood, shaken, asking for help. One was injured in the shoulder. They were desperate and crying.

    "They said that there was a man wearing a suit who was shooting at school kids in classrooms. He first went to a reading room, talked to teachers there, and then went on to two classrooms. This is a complete tragedy. We are all devastated," Mr Pereira said.

    Police later said the gunman had a letter, stating that he intended to commit suicide after the shooting. Media reports suggested he had Aids.

    Rescue workers used a football pitch near the school as a helicopter base from which to transport wounded children to the hospital.

    Hundreds of people gathered outside the school, either out of curiosity or to check on children who were inside at the time of the shooting, the BBC's Paulo Cabral in Rio de Janeiro says.

    The school in Rio's impoverished neighbourhood is attended by pupils aged nine to 14.
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

  • #2
    This wouldn't have happened if those kids and the teacher had guns.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
      This wouldn't have happened if those kids and the teacher had guns.
      How do you know that they didn't have guns ?
      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

      Steven Weinberg

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      • #4
        Oh please, don't start a damn gun control debate in this thread.
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #5
          Eh, why not ? A number of children was killed by guns and you think it isn't reasonable to talk about guncontrol
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • #6
            despite the wide availability of guns here, stuff like this is pretty rare. in fact my g/f said this is the first time she's heard of something like this. people are talking about it a lot here unsurprisingly.

            realengo is a crazy place, but no crazier than many, many other places here.
            "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

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            • #7
              This wouldn't have happened if they shut down the schools.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                Oh please, don't start a damn gun control debate in this thread.
                Yes. Let's stop making sense.
                "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  Oh please, don't start a damn gun control debate in this thread.
                  He started it with the title.
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • #10
                    Well, HC has a tendency to post before he think
                    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                    Steven Weinberg

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                    • #11
                      What can they really do? Even if they outlawed guns (which wouldn't happen) gangs in Brazil already have military grade hardware and enough money to insure they can smuggle more. They might get guns out of the hands of the odd loony but what about organized criminals who do most of the killings?
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                      • #12
                        Then why not make cocaine and other narcotics legal even in schools - people have already acces to them.
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • #13
                          BlackCat finally makes some sense.
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                          • #14
                            Totally forgot - why not let even 10 year olds have free acces to liquor ?
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Felch View Post
                              BlackCat finally makes some sense.
                              I always make sense - it's not my fault that you guys aren't smart enough to understand my superior intelligence
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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