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    It's hard to accept that a couple of weeks ago everything was normal. Now everything's wrong. I had gone out with friends for a Saturday brunch. We were a small group of settled, sorted, middle-aged men, some single, some in relationships, but none of us looking to do anything other than spend some quiet leisure time together. We had a couple of beers, shared a bottle of wine over the meal, then sat around in the pub chatting and reading the papers.

    As the afternoon turned into evening, people began peeling off from the group. By 9.30pm, the last of my friends headed home. On a whim, I decided to stay. I'd never been in that pub before but I felt comfortable alone there.

    After a while, I got chatting to a group around the bar. I got the impression that they knew each other and they were a friendly lot. We talked about football, music, the state of the country. It was good, happy banter. It was the chat that goes on every night, in hundreds of pubs across the country when new people start getting to know each other.

    As the night wore on, the accumulation of a day's steady drinking began to back up. I was never particularly drunk, I don't think, but my memory becomes increasingly misty when I try to think back.

    I can't remember when I first noticed the guy who ended up assaulting me, but he stood out from the rest of the group – he was more extrovert, a bit larger than life. But he didn't do or say anything that made me feel uncomfortable – or that gave the slightest suggestion of what he would be capable of doing a few hours later.

    I was still in the pub at about midnight, then the next thing I remember is being in a house with the same group of about six people. I have no recollection of leaving the pub, travelling or arriving. I've racked my brain but I don't know if we walked there, or got a bus or a cab. I do have some memories from the rest of the evening, though. I remember standing in the kitchen, talking about Christina Rossetti's poem The Convent Threshold. It developed into a conversation about poetry and what we would want read at our funerals.

    Then my memory tails off again. I don't think my drink was spiked. I'll never know if I was drugged or not but I didn't have any of the after-effects you would expect. I didn't feel disorientated or woozy.

    My next memory is at about six or seven the following morning. I woke up in a bed and that guy was raping me. My first thought was: "What the **** do you think you're doing?" The second thought was fear, channelled into self-preservation: I jumped out of bed and grabbed my clothes from the floor. It didn't occur to me to arrest him. It did not even cross my mind that I was a detective. My only thought was my personal safety. He didn't try to stop me. We didn't say a word to each other.


    UK, country where even policemen are raped

    A detective investigating sexual assaults was devastated when he himself was raped. But he grew even more angry when police colleagues insisted on investigating the crime. Here he tells his tale anonymously
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    Blah blah blah...... not gay.......blah blah blah......drunk a lot.....blah blah blah....bunch of gays...... blah blah blah....took his truncheon.....blah blah blah... not gay... blah blah blah......policeman's helmet.
    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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    • #3
      Sounds abit dodgy.

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      • #4
        Lesson here is alcohol can make you easier pickings for rapings.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
          Lesson here is alcohol can make you easier pickings for rapings.
          Or more likely to work on repressed desires for mansex and then regret it in the morning. No wonder he didn't want to press charges or make a big deal about it.
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          • #6
            "we talked poetry, sipped wine, cuddled in bed, AND THEN HE RAPED ME "
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #7
              Lets cut the nonsense. If it was true, he'd have followed it up. DNA evidence and the testimony of a police officer and we'd have one less rapist on the streets.

              This guy was experimenting and didn't like it and so cried rape. Just happens to a be a police officer.
              Last edited by kittenOFchaos; April 7, 2011, 13:56. Reason: Asher has put 2+2 together whilst I was typing

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              • #8
                I have had (gay) guys tell me about aggressive gay guys (that they had experience with) before/etc.

                They exist.

                It very well could have been rape.

                Just because it is man on man and not man on woman doesn't mean the definition of rape should change. Even if the police officer were gay or had previously experimented.

                JM
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                • #9
                  well if anything this should pose a question: can you be raped at all if you are voluntarily totally drunk or otherwise without control due to some other substance abuse?
                  Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                  GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                    well if anything this should pose a question: can you be raped at all if you are voluntarily totally drunk or otherwise without control due to some other substance abuse?
                    My personal thought is if someone is totally drunk/etc, then consent isn't possible.

                    Just like we do with other 'limiting' circumstances.

                    I would never have sex with a drunk person unless I had their consent before the alcohol use.

                    Yes, I think that a lot of people have 'not entirely consensual' sex.

                    Yes, I think it is wrong. A form of non-violent rape.

                    JM
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                    • #11
                      it's a "gray" area... but in principle you should not get "out of control"... if you break it voluntarily I think it is hard to prove anything really, unless there are obvious marks of violence after the fact (or your drink was spiked to start with)...
                      Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                      GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                      • #12
                        Prove what?

                        That you were drunk?

                        If you were drunk, it is not possible to consent. Period.

                        Just like if you are asleep.

                        If I go home with someone, and go to sleep on their bed. That does not give them the right to have sex with me, even if we kissed at some earlier point in the night.

                        JM
                        (Exception would be long time partner who is on good terms, the sort of situation where it is OK to start sex while the partner is asleep/etc.)
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                        • #13
                          So drunk people can't have sex?
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #14
                            Yes, I know that in my consideration, nonconsensual sex happens quite often.

                            Except that a lot of people do it, and feel that when they do it to someone else it was good, and so insist it isn't nonconsensual.

                            JM
                            Jon Miller-
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                            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Asher View Post
                              So drunk people can't have sex?
                              Baring long time partner on good terms, no, I don't think drunk people are capable of consenting.

                              Just like a drugged person.

                              Or a person asleep.

                              Or a ******.

                              JM
                              Jon Miller-
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                              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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