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  • There are many possible things good/bad about a carbon tax, depending on the implementation..

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      • Apparently it was the sun the whole time...

        CERN 'gags' physicists in cosmic ray climate experiment
        What do these results mean? Not allowed to tell you

        By Andrew Orlowski • Get more from this author

        Posted in Science, 18th July 2011 12:01 GMT

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        The chief of the world's leading physics lab at CERN in Geneva has prohibited scientists from drawing conclusions from a major experiment. The CLOUD ("Cosmics Leaving Outdoor Droplets") experiment examines the role that energetic particles from deep space play in cloud formation. CLOUD uses CERN's proton synchrotron to examine nucleation.

        CERN Director General Rolf-Dieter Heuer told Welt Online that the scientists should refrain from drawing conclusions from the latest experiment.

        "I have asked the colleagues to present the results clearly, but not to interpret them," reports veteran science editor Nigel Calder on his blog. Why?

        Because, Heuer says, "That would go immediately into the highly political arena of the climate change debate. One has to make clear that cosmic radiation is only one of many parameters."


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        The unusual "gagging order" could have been issued because the results of CLOUD are really, really boring, muses Calder. Or, it could be that the experiment invites a politically unacceptable hypothesis on climate.

        The CLOUD experiment builds on earlier experiments by Danish physicist Henrik Svensmark, who demonstrated that cosmic rays provide a seed for clouds. Tiny changes in the earth's cloud cover could account for variations in temperature of several degrees. The amount of Ultra Fine Condensation Nuclei (UFCN) material depends on the quantity of the background drizzle of rays, which varies depending on the strength of the sun's magnetic field and the strength of the Earth's magnetic field.


        Close correlation between cosmic ray penetration and temperature

        But how much? Speaking at a private event attended by El Reg earlier this year, Svensmark, who has nothing to do with CLOUD, wouldn't be drawn. He said he thought it was one of four significant factors: man-made factors, volcanoes, a "regime shift" in the mid-'70s, and cosmic rays.

        The quantity of cosmic rays therefore has an influence on climate, but this isn't factored into the IPCC's "consensus" science at all.

        According to Calder:

        "CERN has joined a long line of lesser institutions obliged to remain politically correct about the man-made global warming hypothesis. It's OK to enter 'the highly political arena of the climate change debate' provided your results endorse man-made warming, but not if they support Svensmark's heresy that the Sun alters the climate by influencing the cosmic ray influx and cloud formation."

        Let's hope he's been misquoted. The precedents aren't happy. ®
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • Yes yes yes, many factors drive climate. What so many of these "sceptical" arguments ignore is that the basic physics have been predicting warming due to increased CO2 concentrations for over a century, and that the main cause for concern is those pesky laws of thermodynamics. Measured temperature increases are just supporting evidence.

          So yes, there may be other causes for observed warming, but regardless, increased CO2 concentration will cause it.

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          • Interesting
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            • It's obvious that air pollution is affecting cosmic rays.
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