Listening to Bristol and abstaining or using birth control. Or you could just bite their dick off.
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Bristol Palin’s Nonprofit Paid Her Seven Times What It Spent On Actual Teen Pregnancy Prevention
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Originally posted by Oerdin View PostAnd I just dispise your bull****. I post about a real issue and all you can do is mumble a bunch partisan nonsense while refusing to even condemn obvious fraud. Of course, that's par for the course for you, Spencer, but I do get tired of you claiming I do exactly what you've been doing this entire thread.We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit View PostI'm doing a nearly-180 here.
Looking at the foundation's website, I think they are pretty legit and do a good job of promoting a positive message, favoring both abstinence and contraception as means of preventing teen pregnancy. Which is shockingly reasonable. The other thing that becomes more clear here is that the whole "Palin gets 7x more than aid recipients" is a bit of a smear job, since giving cash to other stop-teen-preggers organizations is not part of the organization's mission.
Still, considering all the other celebs that are participating and knowing the foundation's total income, Bristol's compensation is a little off the charts for doing a couple PSAs, a couple town halls, being interviewed by media and appearng in print ads. Nice work if you can get it.
FYI, I have no hatred of Bristol Palin. She didn't ask to be shoved into the spotlight.
That being said, is Palin getting paid too much? Yes, absolutely. Is this group being wasteful? Yes. They are still doing what they are supposed to do, no different than the groups they gave money to which the OP somehow sees as the only legitimate charitable work this group did. Believe it or not those grants probably went into someone's pocket. *gasp*Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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It is wasteful and inefficient, sure, but it isn't fraud. They are doing what they've set out to do and doing it well. Just not efficiently.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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Who is 'they' ? If you mean the Palins, duh of course one would expect self interested individuals to negotiate as good a deal as possible. If you mean the officers of the Candie Foundation do you have any evidence to suggest collusionary (read fraudulent) activites between Candie officers and the Palins.
Edit - I went over to the article in question and found the author was Lee Fang.
Edit 2 -Apologies I assumed the wiki site was a legit site. That being said Lee Fang"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Who's to say it's not efficient? Would other ways of spending that money been as effective as what they've gotten out of it? We're talking about it on an obscure web site, so obviously we've heard her message. Results are the only really important thing to them.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
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And has takenthe pledge not to become pregnant. Mission accomplished."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Oerdin View PostJust to be clear she paid herself $427,500 but the charity only gave out $35,000 in actual charitable donations. What a ****ing parasite and liar.
Just to be clear, Oerdin is in fact always wrong.
According to the article (not that Lee Fang is to be counted as a credible source) Bristol was paid $262,500 for services rendered while ABC Family (cable network station) was paid $165,000.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by Oerdin View PostAlso remember this next time a politicians says they gave suspect campaign donation money to "a charity" because usually it's a charity they created and head so it's equally ripe for abuse.
The foundation was launched in June 2001 by Neil Cole, head of the Candie's fashion brand.
Neil Cole aka Sarah Palin or maybe not."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostWhy are some people convinced that charities are more effective than the government????
Well the R.S.P.C.A. convinced me that beating dumb animals to death with bricks was just plain wrong. The government never did.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915
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Originally posted by rah View PostWho's to say it's not efficient? Would other ways of spending that money been as effective as what they've gotten out of it? We're talking about it on an obscure web site, so obviously we've heard her message. Results are the only really important thing to them."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostWhy are some people convinced that charities are more effective than the government????
The best answer given IMO is that charities are more effective at addressing the will of the philanthropist. Directing your charitiable giving to causes of your choice is preferntial to amorphous non directed governmental largess. Additionally, despite teh attempt of this OP to claim otherwise, there is a matter of transparency (if anything the OP reinforces that transparency works) for the charities that allows for charitable givers to decide whether or not to continue their philanthropy inthe event that OH&Admin costs are out of whack. Thus smart contributors have the option to reward those more efficient charities."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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