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  • #31
    Originally posted by MrFun View Post
    Do we need faster-than-light interstellar travel though, if in the future, humans have some kind of deep-freeze technology available?
    would suck if your a family man

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    • #32
      Not if the deep-freeze sleep halts your aging until you "revive" after reaching your destination.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #33
        I think he means what becomes of all those left behind.

        But yeah, unless you could travel fast enough and move quantities large enough to make interstellar trade feasible, or we have some way of then connecting back to the origin when we get there (think Stargate), then there is no incentive. Who knows what technological advances are required for this, and even if it is possible. I think that we have a much deeper understanding about what is possible than hundreds of years ago and it seems an insurmountable challenge with our much more knowledgeable position. But who knows what we may figure out in the coming millennia?

        Still, it is always nice to think "what if...".
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #34
          I think he means what becomes of all those left behind.

          But yeah, unless you could travel fast enough and move quantities large enough to make interstellar trade feasible, or we have some way of then connecting back to the origin when we get there (think Stargate), then there is no incentive. Who knows what technological advances are required for this, and even if it is possible. I think that we have a much deeper understanding about what is possible than hundreds of years ago and it seems an insurmountable challenge with our much more knowledgeable position. But who knows what we may figure out in the coming millennia?

          Still, it is always nice to think "what if...".
          Speaking of Erith:

          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MrFun View Post
            So, in the near or the far future, what do you think will be the most viable technology that will provide humans with interstellar travel?

            I'm open to any serious thoughts.
            Ridiculous. Vertical growth is so much easier. It will be millennia, perhaps if there is more room at the bottom than we currently imagine even millions of years before economic growth on that vector slows enough for interstellar travel to become worth it.

            Also note that I'm working with a radically different definition of human than you are. Heavily modified ems or AI modelled mostly on human minds meet my criteria. And even those I'm not sure would be well adapted enough to survive the extreme Malthusian scenario I currently see as the most likely outcome.
            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
              Where exactly would we want to go?
              Anywhere actually to get more atoms. But its going to take a while before it gets hard enough to squeeze some more value of the the ones that we can already easily reach in this solar system to bother going elsewhere.
              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                Ridiculous. Vertical growth is so much easier. It will be millennia, perhaps if there is more room at the bottom than we currently imagine even millions of years before economic growth on that vector slows enough for interstellar travel to become worth it.
                An eyeblink!
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                • #38
                  Why do you care anyway? You're an under-employed History major that wants to sleep in deep freeze mode until when? 2525? And then you'll teach them about Lincoln?
                  Well, good luck with that plan.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #39
                    abe lincoln

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                    • #40
                      That's one. You have a way to go before it's worth the effort.
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by b etor View Post
                        abe lincoln
                        clone Abe Lincoln army

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                        • #42
                          That article quoted by R is a good one for a little perspective. Really, we have evolved for planet Earth and we are the best-suited to it. Earth is an astonishingly beautiful place. That said, human beings can shape their environment to a great degree nowadays. We have much of the technology in-hand for large space stations, moon colonies, and Mars colonies. If we had small-scale fusion power, that would be very useful, but it is not necessary to do a great many things here in our star system.

                          The important thing to remember about outer space is that it is huge. On the one hand, this makes it difficult to travel to any place meaningful. On the other, you can fill outer space relatively near Earth to your heart's content (with utopian societies or religious sect communities, or whatever) -- there is almost unlimited space. Put another way, we have so much useful space very near us, so the need for insterstellar travel doesn't really exist within a relevant timeframe.
                          Last edited by DanS; March 31, 2011, 12:03.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                            Adventure

                            Actuaries
                            Atreides
                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • #44
                              worm holes?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                                Why do you care anyway? You're an under-employed History major that wants to sleep in deep freeze mode until when? 2525? And then you'll teach them about Lincoln?
                                Well, good luck with that plan.
                                Why do you have to give me the urge to drive a dagger through your forehead?
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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