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  • #31
    Originally posted by DaShi View Post
    You mean, the secret president?
    THere is no secret president or anything just people in positions of power that can't really be touched.

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    • #32
      Like who? How much do you know?
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • #33
        This is just stuff I have pieced together. I don't know names or anything.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe View Post
          Wow how prescient of you to know the campaign platform of the 2012 contenders, none of yet to be announced.

          Latest NH polling indicates gay marriage barely registers as an issue for GOP voters and hasn't for Nationwide polling including the last voting cycle/exit polls.
          And yet, in Iowa, conservative organizations from even other states have poured millions of dollars in a vicious backlash campaign against Iowa Supreme Court's ruling on . . . . .

          gay marriage.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #35
            Gingrich had also said recently something about how the Obama administration's position on not enforcing DoMA is unconstitutional.

            So much for Republicans' complete lack of interest in the gay marriage issue.
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #36
              Do you think it's constitutional for the president to refuse to enforce laws he doesn't agree with?

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              • #37
                Executive privilege.
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                "Capitalism ho!"

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                • #38
                  if the law is unconstitutional, yes

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                    Do you think it's constitutional for the president to refuse to enforce laws he doesn't agree with?
                    You are on thin ground with this approach.
                    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                    • #40
                      Why does congress even have the ability to override a veto if the president can simply refuse to enforce a law?

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                      • #41
                        Perhaps you would prefer he flee the jurisdiction to not do his job?
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                          Perhaps you would prefer he flee the jurisdiction to not do his job?
                          I would prefer if people didn't make stupid comparisons between parliamentary gridlock and an executive having quasi-dictatorial power.

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                          • #43
                            Show me in the Constitution where the President is precluded from this action.

                            You have no leg to stand on in this argument gribbler after shooting your credibility in the other thread.
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                              You mean, the secret president?
                              Don't be ridiculous. He's talking about the president's Socialist Jew advisor.
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                                Show me in the Constitution where the President is precluded from this action.
                                There is nothing illegal about it. However, don't you think it’s ethically preposterous to claim DOMA is unconstitutional yet continue enforcing it?
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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