Religion: Real or fake, the poll

[MikeH]

I would put it thusly:

If we allow the premise that a God can exist, then it follows that an Evil God can exist.

[MikeH]

You can't trust Good God either (how do you know he's good? did you give him a polygraph or something?), but at least with Evil God there might be an enjoyable afterlife in it for you.

Evil God is basically setting out in His agenda right from the start that you can't trust him, because he's Evil. Evil God pretending to be Good is at least trying to fool you.

[Ming]

I know you guys are twins, but do you both have to be awful at reading comprehension and logic? ****ing christ.

Gee... no arguments, just more insults. You must be losing big time on this one

[MikeH]

Someone who doesn't believe in God suggesting there are some Gods they could not believe in less than other Gods does seem a bit of an odd argument.

[Lorizael]

Gee... no arguments, just more insults. You must be losing big time on this one

No, I post insults when people are unbearably stupid. I make a point of separating my insults from my arguments.

[rah]

Someone who believes in God suggesting there are some Gods they could not believe in less than other Gods does seem a bit of an odd argument.

Fixed. But yes, it actually works either way.

Let's try again.
I don't believe there are any GODS NOW. When I was growing up, I did believe in the Christian All-loving God. I took it on faith since there was no proof. As I grew up and saw all the evil in the world, that didn't fit my original conception of GOD. To me that was proof that the God I grew up with couldn't possibly exits. So I now believe that no Gods exist.

[Lorizael]

Similarly, the seeming evil of the world is not proof against good gods because logic cannot be applied to the question of a god's existence.

[Lorizael]

See, if the Christian god is supposed to be omnibenevolent, then yes, it would seem contradictory for there to be evil in the world. But if the Christian god is also omnipotent, then the contradiction is meaningless because contradictions are logical terms, and there is no reason (of course) why omnipotent, supernatural beings would be bound by logic.

[Lorizael]

Additionally, if you believe that an omnipotent, omnibenevolent god who can defy logic is not the same as the traditional conception of the Christian god, it still doesn't matter, because equivalence is also a logical principle.

[rah]

I agree that LOGIC and GOD never belong together.
It's all belief/faith.
The evil I see in the world determined my beliefs and eliminated my faith.

[Lorizael]

Then you must also agree that an evil god can exist, even if it's not logical for one to exist.

[Elok]

Thanks for elaborating, Rah. No further questions ATM.

[MikeH]

But the evil in the world is explained by the religion which you grew up in.

[rah]

Then you must also agree that an evil god can exist, even if it's not logical for one to exist.

No. I believe that no god can exist. I USED to believe a god could exist. Not anymore.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Then you must also agree that an evil god can exist, even if it's not logical for one to exist.

This. The goodness or evilness of a deity has absolutely no bearing on its existance.