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What's so special about the fourth one? You could just as easily claim that if coal miners don't like to die they are free to look for work somewhere else. Their desire for work safety is just greedOriginally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
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Some folks are saying public workers shouldn't have the right to unionize and collectively bargain but just as a matter of logical consistency why shouldn't all workers have the same rights? Who employs them shouldn't matter so just make sure all workers have the same rights, including the rights to unionize and collectively bargain, and be done with it.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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If not getting killed or injured at your job were reasonable demands, you wouldn't need a union for those things, 'cause they wouldn't be able to hire anyone to work those jobs anyways.
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Don't want your boss to sexually harass you? You're free to look for work elsewhere.Comment
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Strangely you don't need a union to stop harassment. Unions certainly do help in starting it though.Originally posted by gribbler View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Of course not. All it takes is teh free market. If not getting sexually harassed by your employer were a reasonable request, people would quit their jobs when their employer harasses them.Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostComment
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Unions were a huge part of pushing for anti-sexual harassment laws.Originally posted by DinoDoc View PostTry http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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not to mention pretty much all of the rights that workers enjoy today.Originally posted by Oerdin View Post"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
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I'm not seeing the good you claim public sector unions do for the citizenry at large.Originally posted by C0ckney View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Unions are supposed to represent their member's interests. Are you really complaining because they don't represent other people's interests? Personally, I see a lot of good which unions have brought about which has trickled down to even no union members. Things like paid sick leave, a 40 hour work week, getting a weekend off, over time pay, etc...Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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I'm complaining because I would like to put the people in control of public policy rather than government unions.Originally posted by Oerdin View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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you should try looking.Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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That's not true at all. History is well documented with examples of workers being abused. My only problem with government employee unions is that they tend to give the worker too much power in negotiations. The ideal situation is that both sides would have fairly equal power and be able to generate a deal that is fair for both sides. Still, if I had to choose one side to have more power over the other, I would side with the workers.Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
Anyway, the point here is moot, because the Wisconsin union has demonstrated that it is willing to negotiate fairly.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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