Reagan on Mt. Rushmore?

[onodera]

Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, was the third President, and arranged the Louisiana Purchase.

Why is the DoI important? I'd expect the writers of the Constitution to be more respected. Louisiana Purchase is a biggie, though. I didn't know it was attributed to the Potus himself, not to his SoS.

[Kidlicious]

onodera,

Inspiration counts for a lot in the US. That's why Reagan is popular, even though most people joke about his sayings.

[onodera]

onodera,

Inspiration counts for a lot in the US. That's why Reagan is popular, even though most people joke about his sayings.

I wasn't even talking about Reagan, who's a charismatic idiot, in my opinion.

[Kidlicious]

I wasn't even talking about Reagan, who's a charismatic idiot, in my opinion.

I know. You were talking about the DoI.

[Docfeelgood]

He was an actor, he acted when he was pres.
Many people think tele shows are real.
Like surviver.
Some just are not able to tell the difference.

[Hauldren Collider]

This Reagan worship is shocking. Anyone who lived through his Governorship of California and his Presidency know how terrible he was.

Just quoting this so that everyone can absorb how stupid it is.

[MOBIUS]

Did YOU live through his Governorship of California or his Presidency!!?

No? Then STFU and let the grown ups carry on with their debate, you spoiled little ****...

[Docfeelgood]

Did YOU live through his Governorship of California or his Presidency!!?

No? Then STFU and let the grown ups carry on with their debate, you spoiled little ****...

lol

If sorry, but that is funny!

[giblets]

Did YOU live through his Governorship of California or his Presidency!!?

No? Then STFU and let the grown ups carry on with their debate, you spoiled little ****...

I don't know, that's kind of like saying you can't argue with slowwhand about the american civil war if you weren't around then.

[MOBIUS]

[Tupac Shakur]

Just quoting this so that everyone can absorb how stupid it is.

It is a stupid quote indeed. Everyone knows that there were no survivors of Reagan's reign of terror.

[Lonestar]

Reagan was a terrible president and real historians recognize that fact. The only reason why people still talk about him is because Republicans have spent the last 30 years trying to deify him as their man-god and the reason for that is extremely simple. Republicans are jealous how Democrats have great modern presidents they can point out which are iconic with the American people. FDR, JFK, Clinton. Who do the conservative Republicans have though? Let's go through the list. Eisenhower certainly was a great president and he ran on the Republican ticket but conservatives hate him because he was genuinely liberal. Eisenhower raise the progressiveness of the income tax so high the top tax bracket was 92.5%, he said it was best to tax the wealthy to pay for improvements in general social welfare such as education (largest expansion in education in history plus tax money founded huge numbers of public universities), health, transportation (interstate freeways first built), and numerous other things so modern conservatives hate Eisenhower because he did exactly what modern democrats want to replicate (tax the rich to pay for greater social & development spending in the nation as a whole). Next we have Nixon who did a lot of good things and got elected twice but he also inacted price controls and created the EPA as well as got kicked out of office for corruption so, clearly, conservatives couldn't turn Nixon into their false man-god. Ford was never even elected and was extremely unpopular so he's out. Bush 1 was a one term president who raised taxes so he's out; BTW I actually respect him because Bush 1 was willing to do something which was in the honest objective best interests of the country even though it hurt his own political position. While Bush 2's regime was known for corruption and he left office as the most unpopular president in modern history.

Look at those choices. It's obvious why they chose Reagan to deify even though he really was a poor choice as his administration was mired in corruption like illegally selling weapons to Iran, Reagan's CIA illegally sold cocaine in the US (even using US military planes to fly the cocaine into the US) to help support repressive fascist regimes in central America (both the contras and Noriega in Panama), committed treason when he conspired with a foreign power to keep American citizens hostage because Reagan thought it was in his personal political interests, and exploded the US debt with out of control spending even while slashing taxes on the rich and raising them on everyone else. What the special interests especially loved about him was that for 6 of his 8 years Reagan was mentally so far gone in Alzheimer's that the special interests got to complete corruptly run the show while Reagan drooled in his cheerios. In short he was a disaster for the country (the banking deregulation Reagan pushed for caused the S&L crisis and financial collapse of 1987) but all the other Republican presidents were even worse or less legitiment so Reagan literally is the only option for Republicans to point to a supposedly successful conservative Republican president; that's why they constantly lie and try to attribute everything good to Reagan even though he had nothing to do with 90% of their claims.

He also had the second largest peacetime tax hike in history, granted amnesty to illegal messicans, spoke to the Chief of the Commies without preconditions, tried to get rid of nukular weapons...


Dude was the most LIBRUL President since Carter!

[Dinner]

We can correctly see many of his actions as liberal today though that just shows how far to the right conservatives have pushed things since Reagan. Reagan was extreme right for his time but now he seems almost centrist because the new American right wing has moved the definition of right wing so FAAAAAAARRRRRRR to the extreme right.

[Docfeelgood]

All the backdoor secret negotiations that are just now coming to light make me despise him even more.

[Patroklos]

"I have an idea. Let's give money, weapons, and training to Islamic militants especially Al Qaeda! There is no way that could back fire.

[/Reagan cronies]

This statement of yours encapsulates pretty much every reason who nobody pays attention to what you say. And why you are a tool.