House Votes for Repeal of Health Law in Symbolic Act

[Hauldren Collider]

So, technically they don't, but if one circuit strikes it down and the other upholds it, there's no way they will refuse to hear the case.

[giblets]

Yeah, no surprise that the 11th circuit court is retarded. Would they strike down tax deductions for home mortgage interest? Of course not.

[Hauldren Collider]

I hope the 4th circuit strikes it down, but it seems unlikely, I think there are two Clinton appointees on the panel.

There are two Clinton appointees on the 11th Circuit that just struck down the individual mandate.

Oh, excellent.

Yeah, no surprise that the 11th circuit court is retarded. Would they strike down tax deductions for home mortgage interest? Of course not.

You are either an idiot and don't understand the legal principles behind the case, or are pretending to be an idiot that doesn't understand the legal principles behind the case.

[giblets]

Feel free to explain how having to pay less taxes if certain conditions are met is unconstitutional.

[Hauldren Collider]

Feel free to explain how having to pay less taxes if certain conditions are met is unconstitutional.

This very statement reveals your (probably intentional) ignorance of the counterargument. I'm not a lawyer, I'd advise you to read some of what the various attorney generals challenging the law have written.

[Tupac Shakur]

Feel free to explain how having to pay less taxes if certain conditions are met is unconstitutional.

To be fair, you should probably first explain why you think the individual mandate to buy healthcare insurance is legally equivalent to the tax deduction for home mortgage interest.

[giblets]

So if the tax rate was raised and a tax deduction for buying health insurance was introduced everything would be fine? But paying more tax if you don't buy health insurance is unconstitutional?

[Hauldren Collider]

But it's not a tax, at least according to Obama (although not according to Obama's legal team). Jesus christ, just ****ing read one of the briefs instead of this embarrassing display of ignorance.

[Tupac Shakur]

So if the tax rate was raised and a tax deduction for buying health insurance was introduced everything would be fine?

Yes. You would know this if you had been paying attention to the topic.

But paying more tax if you don't buy health insurance is unconstitutional?

You've incorrectly described the issue; you should have said 'paying a penalty if you don't buy health insurance is unconstitutional?'. The answer right now is "maybe." We'll find out when SCOTUS decides the case.

[giblets]

But it's not a tax, at least according to Obama (although not according to Obama's legal team). Jesus christ, just ****ing read one of the briefs instead of this embarrassing display of ignorance.

How is it not functionally equivalent to raising the tax rate and introducing a tax deduction?

[Tupac Shakur]

I asked you to explain why they're legally equivalent. That's what matters here.

[giblets]

So they have the same effect, but one is constitutional and the other isn't?

[Tupac Shakur]

The constitutionality of the mandate has not yet been determined. Please pay attention.

[Hauldren Collider]

Yes, precisely. That's how law works. It isn't consequentialist.

EDIT: Although until SCOTUS rules technically the answer is "maybe".

[giblets]

The constitutionality of the mandate has not yet been determined. Please pay attention.

I am disputing the notion that the mandate is unconstitutional. Duh. Notice the question mark that indicates that it is not a statement.