Palin was right about Death Panels after all!

[MOBIUS]

I'd be the first to admit that the NHS is an imperfect institution, but having to go back over a decade for a bad story about it - especially one that doesn't even compare like for like - is pretty ****ing lame!

[MikeH]

Every health service is imperfect.

[MOBIUS]

I'd say wilfully sentencing people to death is about as imperfect as you can get!

[BlackCat]

She could dress them up in moose suits and pretend she's hunting!

Just curious - have you seen this :

http://www.theawl.com/2010/12/sarah-palin-the-tv-star-exposes-sarah-palin-the-fake-hunter

[MOBIUS]

I thought that particular lie of hers had been exposed during the presidential election.

So, I notice that not one member of the considerable Republican population on this forum has even tried to defend these death sentences - too embarrassed about their rampant hypocrisy or the blatant lies spread by Palin and co, I expect!

Slowwie's probably for it: pro death penalty - pro death panel, I guess he's thinking 'same difference'...

[Provost Harrison]

He'll just say "let God sort them out". They believe in that kind of superstitious nonsense

[Boris Godunov]

Stones, glass houses, lack of food for trolls, etc.

So--just to be clear--in your view, the rationing of health services for low-income people is worse than the nonavailability of said services for low-income people. Gotcha.

[MrFun]

Death panels were in existence in the form of forcing people to choose between either bankruptcy or getting a serious, chronic disease/illness treated.

Death panels also exist in the form of denying a person insurance coverage based on a preexisting condition.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

A seven year blot on your credit history seems a small price to pay.

[Solomwi]

Death panels were in existence in the form of forcing people to choose between either bankruptcy or getting a serious, chronic disease/illness treated.

Death panels also exist in the form of denying a person insurance coverage based on a preexisting condition.

How does someone with no obligation to pay for my healthcare articulating a reason not to take on that obligation constitute a death panel?

[notyoueither]

So--just to be clear--in your view, the rationing of health services for low-income people is worse than the nonavailability of said services for low-income people. Gotcha.

You're not clear at all.

I think I made it clear why I posted what I posted.

A refresher:

How can the supposedly richest and most powerful country in the world let its citizens die like they were living in some 3rd world country!!? For shame, American, for shame...

Note: I only came across this story because it was reporting in the news in the UK. Do any of you US posters realise just how much of a global laughing stock the US has become to the rest of the world!!?

What a ****ed up country, that it can't even look after the health of its own citizens!

[notyoueither]

Wow, so up to date

If you don't think it is still happening, but at a lower level (at least until the budget cuts have an effect) I would guess that you are sorely mistaken.

[notyoueither]

Exactly. Our point was never that the NHS doesn't have to do that, it was that EVERY health service, no matter how well funded has to do it. And Republican scaremongering about it was ridiculous, stupid and disgusting.

I think MOBIUS is just using some of the same language Republican Nutters were using about the NHS when they were attacking it against them. Making the point about the hypocrisy more than anything.

The super rich will never want for whatever care their millions and billions can buy.

Lower income earners would benefit greatly from a national health system.

Americans with high incomes, but who are not rich, stand to lose some of the quality of care they have come to expect through their more expensive, better plans. I suspect the Republicans were talking to these people, who happen to comprise a lot of their base.