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  • #31
    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    There's a lot of truth in his comment, actually. The Narnia moves were greenlit due to the runaway success of HP.
    While probably true (It may be a combination of HP and LoTR's successes), it ignores the Christian undertones to HP.

    And Elok, Asher isn't always a troll, and therefore I'm not feeding any trolls by this post
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    • #32
      Okay, I'll allow it.
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      • #33
        It doesn't ignore the Christian "undertones". I don't even think "undertones" is the right word. Narnia is about as subtle as the X-Men's pro-gay "undertones".
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        • #34
          I'm talking the Christian undertones in the Harry Potter series (the irony of calling something a Christian Harry Potter is that HP has a Christian basis, which becomes apparent in the final book - The Deathly Hallows).
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Asher View Post
            It doesn't ignore the Christian "undertones". I don't even think "undertones" is the right word. Narnia is about as subtle as the X-Men's pro-gay "undertones".
            He said "Christian undertones to HP." HP was fairly subtle about the Christianity until the last book, when she gave Harry stigmata.
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            • #36
              Oh, right. I get all those children's books confused.

              I didn't notice any Christian undertones to HP because I frequently fell asleep in the movies. Perhaps that should've been the first hint religion was at play.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Elok View Post
                I think there was essentially no chance of Last Battle getting made. Ever. I have no idea how they would have wiggled to Stealth-Jesus that one to mainstream it the way they did the others. Or was that why you wanted to see it? I somehow don't think you liked TLB itself...

                I did like it.
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                • #38
                  Now there's a head-scratcher. You're atheist, and you like a thinly veiled account of the book of Revelation?

                  EDIT: Er, pardon the incredulity.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
                    Looks like the Christian Harry Potter is going to be no more!
                    They haven't gotten to my favorite book in the series yet: The Magician's Nephew.
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                    • #40
                      Well, it looks like they made $24.5 million the first weekend, a little less than a sixth of the film's budget.

                      Yikes.

                      That's less than half of what Prince Caspian made its opening weekend, even slightly less than The Golden Compass. The Golden Compass, FFS. Yeah, I think it's game over, man.

                      EDIT: Wiki says they made more than $80 million worldwide, though. I don't know if that's good.
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                      • #41
                        It does have to compete with Harry ****ing Potter.
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                        • #42
                          Studios are so stupid. They've saturated the market for dullard children fantasy tales, so they keep making more high-budget flops.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Elok View Post
                            Now there's a head-scratcher. You're atheist, and you like a thinly veiled account of the book of Revelation?

                            EDIT: Er, pardon the incredulity.

                            I like the Mahabharata, but I'm not a Hindu.

                            This is what being open-minded means. You don't need a Christian bone in your body to appreciate the almighty allegorical body-blow that is "The Last Battle". Anyone shying away from it by going "Ooooooooo it's Christian which means I don't like it" is a blinkered dolt.
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                            • #44
                              Yes, but that movie's been out for a couple of weeks now. $25 million is a pretty wretched opening weekend, and the studio is supposed to be feeling twitchy about the series already. OTOH, with the worldwide revenue it's almost covered the cost of production already, so I guess it's up in the air. If the next movie's as crummy as Dawn Treader, though...yuk. I'd almost prefer the series died rather than four more like that.

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                              • #45
                                The production cost does not take into account marketing costs, which are frequently equal to or greater than production costs.

                                Prediction: There will be no next movie. Done.
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