Germany never changes... German leader says multiculturalism has failed.

[MikeH]

Mmmm black pudding.

[Al B. Sure!]

Fact is that unless a culture is compatible with Western ideology and culture then it's not going to work. In Europe it's even worse because the unique identity of each county is more pronounced than in the US. That's not to say that the US doesn't have its own unique identity, but our system used to be a true melting pot and was based on that idea so it was easier for people to blend in and become part of it. Instead though, we had a bunch of worthless ****ing idiots called liberals/progressives/socialists/whatever name they are currently hiding behind come in and decide the west should act like a salad bowl. Now what you have is colonization of the west and if you say anything about it you're a racist. It's just common sense in the end really. No country can continue to exist if its citizens don't hold the values and culture that country was founded on. If you populate Europe with muslims who don't conform then you aren't going to have Europe anymore, you're going to have a colony from the Middle East and that's exactly what you have going on.

Return the Ummah to European soil

[BeBMan]

Socialist muslims ftw!

[OzzyKP]

Look, there's an easy way to tell if your on the racist side of an argument:

Non-racist side | Heracletus's side

Now EyesofNight has entered the debate too.

[Heraclitus]

Islam is not a problem in the long term. Citizens in Muslim countries have access to internet porn (even if they have to jump a few hoops to get it), Western popculture (which is basically toxic), contraception and the US is busy making one country at a time safe for feminist ideology.

As long as Middle Eastern economies keep growing I can confidently say that the Muslim world will be much like 1970's Europe in a few decades. Islam except in its most militant form is not immune to the same memetic disease that killed Christianity as a global religion.

[MikeH]

Yeah, well, How many black presidents does Wonderhagen have? Hmm? Huh? Hmmm?

Black muslim presidents no less!

[Dauphin]

As long as Middle Eastern economies keep growing I can confidently say that the Muslim world will be much like 1970's Europe in a few decades. Islam except in its most militant form is not immune to the same memetic disease that killed Christianity as a global religion.

It's half happening, and yet not. See the case of the Saudi Prince who recently killed his gay lover for being gay.

[DriXnaK]

The thing is you're wrong on that. If you look at the progression of the Islamic world since the 1970s, you'll see that they've actually gotten worse over the past 40 years.

[Provost Harrison]

Go to Bradford.

x

Ewww, Bradford. And kindly lay off with the kisses, if you don't mind

[BlackCat]

I'm a bit curious about this "melting pot" claim. I may be wrong, but if I get it rigth, it's only about turning immigrants from european/russian areas into USasians. It doesn't include africans, arabs and asians.

[DriXnaK]

Everyone is supposed to conform to the US ideals and standards. There's not supposed to be such a thing as an Kenyan-American or Irish-American or any other sort of American, there's just American. You pledge allegiance to this country and only this country. This country supersedes your religion and your heritage. You conform to the ideology of this country and you embrace our culture and manner. That was the original idea that anyone around the world could come to this country and be an American. Doesn't work that way now. Now you come to America and you're still from your home country living the same way you did back there and you're supposed to take pride in it and flaunt it. If an American questions this you take them to court and call them a racist. The salad bowl was created because the progressives thought it was arrogant to expect people to come to this country and become Americans. Instead we should "respect" their cultural heritage and foster it. Hence you have large amounts of people who don't assimilate into our country, and in Europe it's even worse.

[BlackCat]

DriX, you sound kind of well, european

[DriXnaK]

How so?

[BlackCat]

Well, your post #86 is kinda defending the european way

[DriXnaK]

I think pretty much every country on the planet operates that way and has forever. How can you have a country if a majority of people don't identify with it? Can you say Rome? The whole idea of multiculturalism is ludicrous and has been shoved down the West's throat for far too long. Europe is finally waking up to the reality of Islam on their doorstep, it might already be too late though based on demographics. Something drastic will have to be done if they want to stop it.