I'm not sure one should dismiss God anymore

[Heraclitus]

Are you illiterate (also, it's steak)?

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

I've already stated that sex is a more important determinant. Also I've only ever discussed racial averages, you someone isn't more intelligent simply because he is Jewish, its just that Askenazi ethnic group has average genetic profile with a few better intelligence genes (which have their drawbacks) .

Perhaps you can modify your definition of racism thus, so you can include me:

"a belief that race is a usefully way of categorizing humans that can serve as a decent proxy for determining the distributions of traits and capacities in large populations and that genetic differences among them produce differences in the distribution of different kinds of talented individuals among the races"

But thinking about it this isn't really it. One can believe in mean racial differences in nearly all human organs and organ systems and not be a racist.

Respiratory system, muscular system, skeletal system, urinary system, digestive system, immune system ect.

It only brakes down when touching the brain. That's when people become racist! But the only way to have this be completely true (other explanations are possible for genetic differences on a much smaller scale than those I have in the past claimed are so, would you perhaps recognize the possibility of trivial differences say in temperament or IQ differences of say a point or so?). That the the brain must have remained unchanged in the last 200 000 years is the only plausible explanation one might give for this to be so.

How can you have new mutations arising in the past say 50 000 years that help people have say slightly higher IQs and still for example keep the frequency of such new mutations and the later prevalence of these genes identical in say the old world and Australia? The best way to argue against this question is to simply state either very few such genes have arisen average group differences are very small or no new genes have arisen.

[DaShi]

"I've already stated that sex is a more important determinant. Also I've only ever discussed racial averages, [s]you[/s] someone isn't more intelligent simply because he is Jewish, it's just that Askenazi ethnic group has average genetic profile with a few better genes."

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

[DaShi]

I've already stated that sex is a more important determinant. Also I've only ever discussed racial averages, you someone isn't more intelligent simply because he is Jewish, its just that Askenazi ethnic group has average genetic profile with a few better genes.

Perhaps you can modify your definition of racism thus, so you can include me:

And we're back to the bizarre way you view yourself in an attempt to defy reality.

But thinking about it this isn't really it. One can believe in mean racial differences in nearly all human organs and organ systems and not be a racist.

Respiratory system, muscular system, skeletal system, urinary system, digestive system, immune system ect.

It only brakes down when touching the brain. That's when people become racist! But the only way to have this be completely true (other explanations are possible for genetic differences on a much smaller scale than those I have in the past claimed are so, would you perhaps recognize the possibility of trivial differences say in temperament or IQ differences of say a point or so?). That the the brain must have remained unchanged in the last 200 000 years is the only plausible explanation one might give for this to be so.

Or your assumption is wrong and thus so is your conclusion.

Look, no matter how you try to justify it or weasel out of it, you've posted racist things on this forum and fit the definition perfectly.

[Heraclitus]

"I've already stated that sex is a more important determinant. Also I've only ever discussed racial averages, [s]you[/s] someone isn't more intelligent simply because he is Jewish, it's just that Askenazi ethnic group has average genetic profile with a few better genes."

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

How can it be the primary determinant of human traits and capacities when sex and other categories are more important?

Also in the context it should be obvious I'm talking about better genes for intelligence not better genes as in "these genes make you superior" way. Especially after I devoted a whole paragraph to some Askenazi drawbacks or areas where they are outshone by others.

Or your assumption is wrong and thus so is your conclusion.

Ok which assumption?

you've posted racist things on this forum and fit the definition perfectly.

Can you provide an anecdote? No need for quotes just a general summary of the racist opinion/theory/whatever.

[DaShi]

Seriously, you're just posting gibberish now.

[DaShi]

How can it be the primary determinant of human traits and capacities when sex and other categories are more important?

Also in the context it should be obvious I'm talking about better genes for intelligence not better genes as in "these genes make you superior" way. Especially after I devoted a whole paragraph to some Askenazi drawbacks or areas where they are outshone by others.

Question: Are you thick or just deluding yourself?

Ok which assumption?

Right, thick it is.

[Heraclitus]

Question: Are you thick or just deluding yourself?

I can perhaps recall saying Askenazi Jews probably have higher IQ's than any other group (possible exceptions might include some inbreed Chinese groups, Indian casts in some regions or perhaps some segments of European aristocracy). However they pay this with being more prone to some kinds of neurosis and possibly several congenial medical conditions. They also don't excel as athletes compared to other Caucasoid and like all other Caucasoid subtypes (White+Middle Eastern+Indian) they could never match East Africans in long distance running. They are more likely to underestimate or undervalue themselves than African Americans who are more confident in their own abilities as individuals than most peoples. They also have a higher rate of lactose intolerance compared to the Danish, they are more prone to alcoholism than East Asians, they carry few of the disease resistances of Africans or South Asians and they have a lower rate of twinning than say Namibians.

Reading is good for you.

[DaShi]

Good, now make the mental connection that a two year old could and see how you racist.

[Heraclitus]

Good, now make the mental connection that a two year old could and see how you are racist.

FTFY, anyway find a new definition or STFU (there are plenty and I'm basically giving you the right to cherry pick one that fits me)

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

a) I don't believe its the primary determinant of human trains
b) I don't believe any particular race is superior

Unless a unqualified superior means "better at some things worse at others" and primary means "one that is usefull for looking large populations". I don't think anyone but you would claim this exactly fits this particular definition.

However many (perhaps most) people will agree that, yes this position is still racist, but this whole excursion is precisely about trying to get to the definition that actually captures this particular kind of racism even if it doesn't capture all that you consider "racist".

[DaShi]

Ah, the problem is that you don't understand English. Of course, I should have remembered that from before.

[Heraclitus]

Ah, the problem is that you don't understand English. Of course, I should have remembered that from before.

So when someone says A is superior to B, and doesn't qualify it this isn't talking about general superiority or moral superiority?

This might be closer to what you are looking for:

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups.

However the problem is in that pesky "all". I don't believe all members of a racial group posses characteristics or special abilities specific to that race (I'm having a hard time thinking of anything like the latter existing!).

[DaShi]

What?

[Heraclitus]

What?

I quoted a dictionary definition of the word we are discussing. Its obviously closer to my position that the one you proposed, I however pointed out that it still isn't quite right.

Adults some times do that.

You also obviously can't remember what your post which criticized my understand of English referenced to.

[DaShi]

I replied to what you wrote first. Not your many edits.

[DaShi]

Yes, that definition works for you too. At least we can agree that you're a racist. Let's just leave it at that.