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At least give me a response to my very complimentary offer, Kuci.
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I would've thanked you and gone up to NYC immediately
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
How is an inherent value capable of being priced and exchanged? That makes no sense to me. If it can be exchanged, it's by definition instrumental.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
nstrumental value (or extrinsic value, contributory value) is the value of objects, both physical objects and abstract objects, not as ends-in-themselves but a means of achieving something else. It is often contrasted with items of intrinsic value.
A human being's inherent value is the value he provides EVEN IF he provided no value to anybody else.
This is VERY DIFFERENT from claiming that an inherent value is strictly incomparable to other values.
nstrumental value (or extrinsic value, contributory value) is the value of objects, both physical objects and abstract objects, not as ends-in-themselves but a means of achieving something else. It is often contrasted with items of intrinsic value.
A human being's inherent value is the value he provides EVEN IF he provided no value to anybody else.
This is VERY DIFFERENT from claiming that an inherent value is strictly incomparable to other values.
Value he provides to whom?
All I'm seeing are means when inherent value is used to describe ends in themselves.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
GET OUT OF MY FACE :ANGRY: YOU CAN'T REVOKE MY PRIVILEGES. YOU CANT REVOKE THEM. FACTS ARE FACTS: EVERY YEAR KIDS SEND THEIR PARENTS TO D.C. KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THEY MAY BE GROPED OR LOST AND GROPED ON THE METRO OR RUN OUT OF MONEY BUT THEY DO IT ANYWAY BECAUSE OF THE [BOLD]BENEFIT[/BOLD] TO THEIR EDUCATION IS OUTWEIGHING THE RISK TO THE VALUE THEY PLACE ON THEIR FINANCES/SECURITY AND EVEN LIVES[/BOLD THAT]. Being a Congressional page is a life-changing experience whether you are a virgin or not. I would not recommend walking alone by Capitol Hill however because whenever I do that I hear women screaming and I wonder, should I stop to help? Is every second a second too late?
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Reason: FACT CHECK: KIDS TURN DOWN GS INTERNSHIPS TO BE PAGES ****ER
THE METRO IS WELL-KNOWN TO BE SAFER THAN YOUR OFFICE. SELLING THE SANCTITY OF YOUR CORNHOLE FOR THE PROMISE OF POWER A CONGRESSMAN'S SEAT PROVIDES IS THE TYPE OF DEAL ONLY A NAIVE ARKANSAN WOULD MAKE.
THE SANCTITY OF MY CORNHOLE? THE SANCTITY OF MY CORNHOLE? IS THIS THE MAN YOU WANT MANAGING YOUR MONEY? IS THIS THE MAN YOU WANT MANAGING YOUR LIFE SAVINGS? IS THIS THE MAN YOU WANT MANAGING YOUR ASSETS? NO WONEDER THE HOUSING MARKET COLLAPSED. THE SANCTITY OF MY CORNHOLE?? HOW CAN ANYTHING YOU **** OUT OF BE SANCTIONED? THE METRO IN DC LACKS A) AIR CONDITIONING B) POLICE SERVICES C) FUNCTIONING ELEVATORS. YOU WANT YOUR CORNHOLE BREACHED, TRY RIDING DC METRO AND IT'LL HAPPEN OH LET ME TELL YOU IT WILL HAPPEN.
This is my problem. Let's say a particular human life is valued at $8 million. Now, in a slightly modified version of that original scenario, suppose this person is a vegetable or something and only possesses the intrinsic value and no instrumental value to society. If, by some scenario, this individual's death results, with no uncertainty, in $9 million of utility (defined by however), then, presumably, both of you would agree that the death of this person would be ethically correct, especially since KH said a machine can be more valuable than a human life.
My issue is that as soon as this situation is set up, you're making the value of the human life transferable (swapping the $8M life for the $9M in utility). Is inherent value transferable? How can it be? It seems to me that the moment that occurs, it can only be described as instrumental value as a human life was used/exchanged for a greater amount of utility.
Whether a human life starts out with inherent value does not change the fact that this utility calculus creates a situation in which human life is a means to an end and not an end in itself.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
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