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  • Tea Party *****es about Captain America movie.

    I stumbled across this and thought I'd share.

    After being exposed for lies & misinformation, Andrew Breitbart & his crew are now going after Captain America. And I wish I was joking, but I'm not kidding.

    Created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby in 1941 for Timely Comics, Steve Rogers/Captain America was a patriotic superhero created during World War II to bolster morale. The character has been a staple within Marvel Comics for the past half-century. As part of Marvel Studios' plan to link their characters (Iron Man, Thor, Cap, Hulk, etc.) for an 'Avengers' film (to be directed by Joss Whedon), next year will see the release of 'Captain America: The First Avenger' & 'Thor' movies.

    However, it seems Conservatives are upset over a comment made by 'Cap' director Joe Johnston in today's Los Angeles Times, in which he said the movie version of Steve Rogers will not be a "jingoistic flag waver". In a previous diary, I mentioned how some Conservatives are like Fanboys who love their "precious" the way a five-year-old loves their Mommy ("Mommy can never do anything wrong, because she's Mommy.") This seems to be the story that proves it.

    Except, if these Cons were comic-book Fanboys, they would know that Johnson's description of the film version is in keeping with the comic-book representation of Steve Rogers/Captain America that has existed since at least 1964 (The Avengers #4, March 1964). For those who might be unfamiliar with the character, Steve Rogers was a sickly & frail young man who would be changed by World War II-era bioengineering. After being rejected as unsuitable for enlistment in the Army, Rogers is given the chance to be a test subject of a Super-Soldier Serum that gives him peak human abilities. Armed with a virtually indestructible shield, Rogers becomes the United States' best & last line of defense, and goes on to fight Nazis, Aliens, Gods, and almost every other supervillain in creation.

    Big Hollywood.

    America’s great ... the world’s great ... and therefore there’s no American exceptionalism. See how they do that? But why not remain true to this morally illiterate vision and rename Captain America something like Captain Earth? After all, why would someone who sees nothing special about America name himself Captain America and wrap himself in the red, white and blue?

    Johnston can spout all the talking points off he wants about artistic imperatives, but from an artistically imperative point of view the main motivation of his protagonist now make absolutely no sense.

    We should also give Johnston credit for not attempting to spin this decision into the Big Lie Hollywoodists spread in order to hide their own loathing at the very thought of portraying their own country in a positive way.
    I actually couldn't decide whether or not to make a new thread or put it in the "Political discourse in America is a joke" thread.

    I will say that:

    (1)I don't think the right honorable Mr. Breitbart has been reading much of Captain America over the past several decades if he thinks that being a "jingoistic flag waver" is in keeping with the charecter.
    (2)I don't think the Right Honorable Breitbart realizes that Hollywood will not be looking for a way to make the movie less appealing on the global market. This is more marketing than an insidious liberal ploy. At least that's how I would view it were I a studio exec.
    (3)No matter what, I still better see Captain A drop the "Surrender? Surrender??? Do you think this A on my head stands for France????" line.
    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

  • #2
    I don't know anything about comics so I'm puzzled by this at the end of the article:

    For the non comic readers out there, this is the real Captain America (Steve Rogers) giving the speech. The guy on the ground is the 1950's Captain America, who was a jingoistic, flag-waving, commie-bashing *******... And Steve Rogers has had to kick his ass a few times.

    Even the current Captain America (the former Bucky) faced the guy, and ended up having to kill him to save innocent lives.

    1950's Cap was the guy the TEA Partiers want to see in the movie, and it's pretty much established for decades now that 1950's Cap was a total dick.
    What does that mean? There's more than one Captain America?
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • #3
      in/b4 DinoDoc
      The Wizard of AAHZ

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
        I don't know anything about comics so I'm puzzled by this at the end of the article:



        What does that mean? There's more than one Captain America?
        Yeah it's pretty weird. When Cap was thawed out in the '60s, it was because Stan Lee forgot that there were a whole bunch of Captain America stoories in the '50s. Later on he made up some story about it being a crazy college professor or something that had plastic surgery to look like Steve Rogers.

        Today Bucky is Captain America.
        Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
          Yeah it's pretty weird. When Cap was thawed out in the '60s, it was because Stan Lee forgot that there were a whole bunch of Captain America stoories in the '50s. Later on he made up some story about it being a crazy college professor or something that had plastic surgery to look like Steve Rogers.

          Today Bucky is Captain America.
          And Bucky is who?

          Is this like Robin how there's multiple Robins?
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #6
            God, comic books are stupid...
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
              And Bucky is who?

              Is this like Robin how there's multiple Robins?

              I think there was just the one Bucky.
              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                God, comic books are stupid...
                Very true although I can't help but feel that plenty of people would say "God, video games are stupid"

                I'm not really seeing how that Tea Party guy was really *****ing nor why the author of the article is such a douchebag in criticizing the Tea Party guy. Everybody needs to calm the **** down and remember it's a ****ing movie based on a ****ing comic book

                At least Iranians had some legitimate concern about 300 and the depiction of Persians in it.

                EDIT: Lonestar, and WHO is Bucky?
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                  Very true although I can't help but feel that plenty of people would say "God, video games are stupid"

                  I'm not really seeing how that Tea Party guy was really *****ing nor why the author of the article is such a douchebag in criticizing the Tea Party guy. Everybody needs to calm the **** down and remember it's a ****ing movie based on a ****ing comic book
                  I think He's still sore about a recent Captain A comic that depicted the Tea Baggers in it.

                  EDIT: Lonestar, and WHO is Bucky?
                  Stupid teenage sidekick.

                  Now he's a loon with a bionic arm and a gun.
                  Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                    EDIT: Lonestar, and WHO is Bucky?
                    Cap's Boy Wonder brought back from the dead as a result of a stupid story arc.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                      Cap's Boy Wonder brought back from the dead as a result of a stupid story arc.
                      QFT


                      They should have had USAgent replace Rogers after he got killed/teleported.
                      Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
                        QFT


                        They should have had USAgent replace Rogers after he got killed/teleported.
                        USAgent is stupid as well.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #13
                          That's because you're a bleeding haert liberal who likes the pacifist "I don't kill anyone" Captain America.
                          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                          • #14
                            That all sounds retarded. Apparently you guys like it and think it's stupid and the same time.

                            All I know about Captain America is that he used steroids
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                              That all sounds retarded. Apparently you guys like it and think it's stupid.

                              All I know about Captain America is that he used steroids
                              Don't be an idiot. He used Vita-rays and a genetically engineered virus.

                              If he used drugs they eventually would have metabolized out of his system.
                              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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