Soccer really sucks, doesn't it?

[C0ckney]

well working in IT, i'm not surprised you use that language but you're just nitpicking now.

I don't think any of those southern countries are new in any way.

They're old in spirit.

well that's nice, but i think i'll stick with the definition of the old and new world that everyone else uses.

[Imran Siddiqui]

People have been making that prediction for over 35 years now.

Of course 35 years ago, you couldn't find a World Cup game, with maybe the exception of the Championship Match on TV. Now, every game is on TV (ABC or ESPN) and in HD. And gets some nice ratings. So I think that's a good deal of progress.

[Bosh]

People have been making that prediction for over 35 years now.

Really? Was there much soccer being played by kids 35 years ago? I wasn't alive then (am 29). Of course there isn't a linear relationship between how much a game is played and how much it is watched (just look at bad NBA ratings vs. how many people play basketball) but right now soccer is one of the most played sports out there and probably still growing at the high school etc. levels and I can't see it locked out of TV viewing forever if that trend continues.

[a.kitman]

I didn't say it wasn't a big deal, I said it was a warning, not a punishment.

Call it semantics if you want but you have confirmed there is no actual punishment accompanying the yellow card. It is indeed a "warning".

in this case a warning is a punishment as it will impact your style of play. its not a meaningless slap on the wrist as you try to make it,

[MikeH]

At the combine, Vernon Davis ran a 4.38 40-yard dash, had a 42-inch vertical, a 10'8" broad jump, and benched 225lbs for 33 reps at 6'3" 254 lbs. Let those numbers ruminate in your head for a second. He can bench 225lbs for 33 reps AND still run at a sprinter's speed.

How fast can he run 10k?

All those things you mention are strength/power. Soccer/Rugby you also need to be able to run around for 80/90 mins.

[BeBMan]

Will you start banning Americans over that 1-1? I remember some mod warning regarding this....

[MikeH]

Wasn't my warning about banning Germans if you beat us in round 2?

[Wezil]

in this case a warning is a punishment as it will impact your style of play. its not a meaningless slap on the wrist as you try to make it,

Yeah, yeah.

You're the one arguing semantics.

Every source I checked called it a "warning". How about your sources?

[Wezil]

Will you start banning Americans over that 1-1? I remember some mod warning regarding this....

That's okay. Give us a yellow card.

[MOBIUS]

How fast can he run 10k?

All those things you mention are strength/power. Soccer/Rugby you also need to be able to run around for 80/90 mins.

The reason I got into American Football when I was a kid was that I was lazy and therefore unfit but also fast - it was a perfect sport when you are spending virtually the entire game resting or walking from one play to the next!

Your average football player easily tops 10k in a game when a running back or wide receiver has had an excellent game if they've managed to wheeze over a 100 yards...

[a.kitman]

Yeah, yeah.

You're the one arguing semantics.

Every source I checked called it a "warning". How about your sources?

i said it was a warning, that doesnt mean its not a punishment.

since you seem unable to connect the dots here i will do it for you. if you get your second yellow for diving your sent of the pitch for the entire game and banned from the next game.
how is that for punishment?

[Wezil]

You can't connect the dots. A player commits an infraction and recieves a yellow card (warning) telling him if he commits another foul he will be punished (a red card as my research shows).

Your argument is that he was punished in that he has to adjust his playing style else get a red card. Apparently being made to follow the rules is a punishment in soccer.

My argument is that he was warned that if he does not adjust his playing style he eventually will be punished.

Looks like a classic definition of a warning.

You tried to prove Asher wrong with your examples (two yellows) and failed miserably.

[RGBVideo]

what a funny thread this is

Isn't a yellow card just a warning?

Yes.

In most high-level matches, the team which gets one player off (either through 1 red card or 2 yellow cards to a single player) before 70 minutes automatically loses the game. So if a player gets a single yellow card, he has to play in a different way in order to avoid the second yellow and ****ing his entire team over. For exapmle, if a player gets a single yellow card, he has to play entire differently in corner-kick situations, defender has to avoid or abandon slide tackles, midfielder has to play opening passes avoiding contact (has to start offensives in a different way because he should avoid close physical contact is what I'm getting at). Players need to start completely differently in high-level matches if they get yellow-carded.

But yes, yellow card is just a warning when you actually look at it's definition, you are correct.

well as has been pointed out, it doesn't appeal to people in north america, only people in the rest of the world.

Actually, this is incorrect. Football is extremely popular in North American countries such as Mexico, Cuba or Costa Rica. US and Canada are the only countries in the world where it's not a mainstream sport. Thus, American football is American football (or melonball for short) and English football is football.

Asher and Drake are just trolling with his "REAL MEN'S FOOTBALL AND OLD WORLD FOOTBALL", and it's working quite well, lots of people are taking them seriously.

Additional factor - It's a simple game that requires no more than a pair of shoes to play.

I think this is a good point wrt to football's popularity. The game is pretty simple and doesn't require expensive equipment.

I highly doubt there is a single soccer or rugby player as supremely athletic

Oh, the old "OUR SPORTS HAS MORE ATHLETIC PLAYERS" -penis waving point.

Every world class game has world class athletes. It's a question of what body parts a world class player should train. How about we start making laughing at long distance runners for not having AS IMPRESSIVE BICEPS as weight lifters? Direct body tackling is not allowed in football, so naturally the players don't start training their shoulders or start "benching 300 lbs". Additional muscle mass means more body mass, which means less explosive running speed

In the NHL, diving is a penalty. Is it in soccer? Never seen it called

Yes it is, but in international games the referess are pussies and never give out yellow cards for it. And this is a big problem, since players of different countries slowly start to "dive" for fishing out free kicks more and more. Italy is an expert on this, and this is why you see so many crybabies crying and whining in reaction to the smallest of pushes or tackles.

Sure, that's possible, explain how the idiotic offside rule makes sense

How about you try playing a couple of games without the offside rule.

[MikeH]

It's world cup gameweek 2 and young Asher McHockeypants of Canada receives his first yellow card of the game but his second yellow card of the tournament for calling the referee a liar. He now misses the next game.

In what way is that not a punishment?

[Wezil]

Doesn't second yellow = red?