Isn't Glen Beck supposed to be insane?

[Wezil]

Fair enough.

I've heard people use this as a club before. I concede you weren't.

[Dauphin]

I don't pay taxes so that some furriner can have my money*.

* except when I am paying taxes abroad

[Darius871]

I love how a couple months ago you didn't even know who Beck was

You can't understand sarcasm and are dumb. I'll assume you're referring to me posting "Who?" at some point in some irrelevant thread, which is a joke when people here make a big deal out about some silly attention whore hack who is of no actual consequence and should be ignored accordingly. I've done the same for Coulter, Palin, and Robertson, to name a few.

now you're an expert on him and on the timeline of approval/disapproval from my 'ilk'.

Shortwave and the usual-suspect forums do not lie. Well, except for the incessant deluge of "disinfo agents" out to get you of course; maybe I'm putting too much stock in them. If only they'd put out a disclaimer or something.

FWIW, my 'ilk' knew he'd flake on FEMA the moment he announced his so-called investigation, which later turned out to be a farce just as my ilk said it would.

Way to generalize as much as you criticize me for doing. I distinctly recall plenty of people thinking Beck would be "the one" to finally bring that malarkey into the "mainstream" for at least as long as it would take for him to get fired, only to be surprised and outraged that he would turn around and "betray" the "movement" like he did. Some even continued to believe in him by taking his "they're telling me to say this, help!" joke seriously and being sure that "they" forced him to back down. I have no way of knowing whether you were in that camp at the time, but even if you were, it'd be awfully easy to backtrack now with 20/20 hindsight.

[HalfLotus]

I distinctly recall plenty of people thinking Beck would be "the one" to finally bring that malarkey into the "mainstream"

Speaking of convenient hindsight. Can you source even one?

[Darius871]

Yes, numerous callers on 5975 MHz at 1342h CST on 4/6/09 and 6450 MHz at 1732h
CST on 4/7/09, plus a littany of comments on two youtube videos now down for terms of use violations. Come on dude, we're not talking about mainstream media articles I can "cite" to a year after the fact.

In any event a cite would utterly pointless, because anytime someone purporting to be in the "movement" comes off as silly, you can just facilely write it off as another "disinfo agent" and move on. It must be easy living in your world.

[David Floyd]

Yep. It's less than 1%... so all this stop giving foriegn aid and the budget would be magically ok is just reams and reams of bull****.

Ummm, sorry, but 0.1/10 on this one. Beck clearly indicated a desire to cut everything across the board, and the video also indicated that this was but one of a series of episodes on the subject of cutting budgets. Of course cutting foreign aid doesn't solve our budget problems - and Beck never said it did. With that said, we could easily stand to stop giving out much of the foreign aid we do give out. You know how the saying goes - "A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon it's real money" - right?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Cry me a river. Cut military spending and then we may get somewhere.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That 1% is not including alot of stuff. The number was basically invented to counter the "US gives the most" argument and is equally intellectually dishonest.

What exactly doesn't it include and don't give me the 'private giving' bull****, because we are talking about governmental spending (oh and military spending is to benefit us - to think it is in any way altruistic is ridiculous).

[Dr Strangelove]

I once read a report on international aid from the Heritage Foundation showing that if private aid is added in the US well exceeds Europe in per capita government funded international aid. They failed to include private aid in any of the figures for European countries. Furthermore the largest category of American private international aid is from religious organizations, especially Protestant churches. I can guarentee you that the bulk of that aid is non-humanitarian, non-developmental missionary work.

[Ecofarm]

"Stuff" is private donations and organizations (including church work, NGOs, private charities and individual work), military assistance and intervention, intelligence sharing, the use of our transport vehicles almost exclusively for international aid projects, agricultural projects, funding for the UN, World Bank and IMF (which we bear the vast burden of), intellectual property rights sharing, etc.


Saying the US gives little, by excluding most stuff, is no more honest than saying the US gives the most based on raw totals. In the end, the argument does little more than to elicit personal bias (and perhaps educate to some extent); there is no "correct" evaluation.

(oh and military spending is to benefit us - to think it is in any way altruistic is ridiculous)

You cannot honestly believe that. You're not a ****. For you to be so amazingly and obviously one-sided and wrong is a bit surprising.

[Dr Strangelove]

Actually the US supplies only 17% of the IMF's SDRs (funds). Japan and Germany each supply 6%, France, and the UK each supply 5%. Consider that Japan's population is about 1/3 the US, Germany's 1/4, and France and the UK each 1/5.
The US supplies 22% of the UN's funds, Japan supplies 16%, Germany 9%, the UK 7%, France 6%. Once again you see that on a per capita basis the US doesn't give as much as the other developed countries. Regarding the UN, also remember that for years the US refused to pay what the UN asked.

[HalfLotus]

comments on two youtube videos

Typically shaky foundation for your uninformed hyperbole directed at anti-establishment types.

You broach a topic like FEMA camps, and a demographic like 'my ilk' - so I don't know why you're backpedaling based on a lack of 'mainstream' sources.

My 'ilk' actually have whole websites on the internet, and sometimes they even publish articles on them! The ones I'm looking at from that time are highly suspicious, as Beck was already a recognized as a corporate media blowhard long before his little foray into FEMA camps.

[Ecofarm]

Regarding the UN, also remember that for years the US refused to pay what the UN asked.

Refused to pay BS, yeah - cause we front the money on most of their crap, enforce it all and house the damn thing. The UN is a huge waste of money for us and is power for you.

Let's remember that it is housed in the US, on extremely valuable real-estate and with all of the accompanying security. Let's also remember that the US is tasked with actually implimenting any UN military resolutions. The UN would mean nothing, absolutely nothing, without the US.

Everyone gets one vote? Then everyone should pay the same.

Instead, we get Syria on the Human Rights Commision (who constantly libels Israel from that position) and I bet they don't pay sht.


Besides, Europe doesn't give crap in private charity. This goes to show that Europe must be forced into humanitarian missions by authority, because they are selfish and self-centered.

[Darius871]

My 'ilk' actually have whole websites on the internet, and sometimes they even publish articles on them! The ones I'm looking at from that time are highly suspicious, as Beck was already a recognized as a corporate media blowhard long before his little foray into FEMA camps.

Well of course I'm not about to frequent those sites - "they" have keylogging software on my computers and uni account that would send up red flags in a New York minute. Maybe when I get my promotion to TS+4 clearance disinfo agent I could have a good excuse, but not at entry-level.

[HalfLotus]

Let's remember that it is housed in the US, on extremely valuable real-estate

The Rockefellers were more than happy to donate the parcel in order to smooth the road to World Government.