Canadians healthier, live longer than Americans

[Kidlicious]

Canadians don't have large populations of poor blacks and hispanics.

So you suggest that we remove a bulk of the poor americans with inadequate health care from the study and that would fix it? And you don't see a problem with that?

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They don't have rednecks that don't believe in organic products either.

I promise you if every american believed in eating organic this country would be a lot healthier.

Americans are generally stupid and don't care about their health.

[Kidlicious]

Eating right and exercising is not preventative medicine.

You don't do either of those things do you? And you are going to tell us what to eat?

[Riesstiu IV]

Eating right and exercising is not preventative medicine.

This sounds like something a fat person would say.

[MrFun]

So lets move to things that are preventative medicine. Lets consider things like routine physicals, breast exams, prostate screenings, checking cholesterol etc etc. Are you asserting that a population that did these things would have no better health results that a population did not do these things? In short, are you asserting that either

1. these measures do not contribute to earlier detection of medical problems OR
2. That early detection does not lead to better resolution of medical issues

You see, on its face I find your seeming lack of support for preventative medicine to be a little perplexing

You're not the only one perplexed. I always thought the earlier you detect a serious illness or disease, the better off you will be.

[Hauldren Collider]

I think kid just accused me of being a redneck. I live in DC, you idiot. Like, one of the most urban areas of the country.

Also, Riesstiu: I'm about 2 pounds above being UNDERweight

So you suggest that we remove a bulk of the poor americans with inadequate health care from the study and that would fix it? And you don't see a problem with that?

I know that no matter what I say, you will dig your heels in and commit yourself to ignorance. If someone else wants to explain why leaving poor minorities in the study as akin to comparing apples to oranges, and why removing them is not racist, please do, as I do not have the patience to tutor this statistics failure.

EDIT: Perhaps I should clarify as I've previously mentioned that I live in Virginia--I live in a DC suburb in northern Virginia. The Washington metropolitan area has an absolutely immense sprawl.

[Wiglaf]

There's a lot rednecks in Virginia. Particularly Alexandria.

[Hauldren Collider]

Doesn't make me one of them. Also I don't live in Alexandria.

[Riesstiu IV]

Also, Riesstiu: I'm about 2 pounds above being UNDERweight

I wasn't talking to you, fatty.

[Dinner]

We get all kinds of poor immigrants also -- Haitians, Somalians, etc. They just come from different parts of the world.

As I recall Canada has a higher percentage of immigrants as a percentage of total population though Canada does try to pick better educated immigrants compared to the US.

[Dinner]

This sounds like something a fat person would say.

Tell me about it.

Drake's a fatty.

[giblets]

So you suggest that we remove a bulk of the poor americans with inadequate health care from the study and that would fix it? And you don't see a problem with that?

If you don't control for variables, you have no way of knowing what the cause of the difference is. If you don't control for the different demographics of the US and Canada, then you don't know if the difference in life expectancy is caused by the difference in the health care systems or the different demographics.

[Drake Tungsten]

Are you asserting that a population that did these things would have no better health results that a population did not do these things?

As far as I know, there's no clear evidence that preventive medicine on the whole has an effect on health outcomes that makes it worth the expense. That being said, some types of preventive medicine seem more worthwhile than others.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/358/7/661

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/03/myth-diagnosis/7905/

[Kidlicious]

I think kid just accused me of being a redneck. I live in DC, you idiot. Like, one of the most urban areas of the country.

Redneck is a way of thinking. Trust me. You're a redneck.

[Kidlicious]

\I know that no matter what I say, you will dig your heels in and commit yourself to ignorance.

No. It's because you are an ignorant teenager that you disagree with everything I say.

[Ecofarm]

I'm wondering on where you draw the line then.

Is women feeling their own breasts for possible lumps preventive screening or just 'taking care of your body'?

That's 'hot'.

Meh, it was funnier when I thought it was the current discussion.