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Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
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You talk like Ben, but he's smarter than you.Originally posted by Heraclitus View PostI don't know why some people in this thread consider being an African an insult? Talk about racism
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Ouch.Originally posted by DaShi View PostModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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I mostly cite stuff from the 90's of the 20th century and early 2000ish stuff.Originally posted by Ecofarm View PostModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Originally posted by Heraclitus View PostI don't know why some people in this thread consider being an African an insult? Talk about racism
It isn't, unless you want to discuss mean IQ's being lower than the Western European norm. And recent history marred by crap politics and wars.
Like the nations of the former Yugoslavia.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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Well some one seems a bit hostile. Their mean IQs are lower, this is a fact. Just like its a fact the mean IQ of Slovenian citizens is lower than the mean IQ of British citizens. The real debate is what this means. Is is nurture, bias, genetics or some mix of the three? This is where the science comes in. Various sides each with plausible arguments.Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
Also I'm not stopping you making a thread about Yugoslav history and present condition. I fail to see what's wrong with talking about problems the world or various regions face today and have in the past.Last edited by Heraclitus; May 11, 2011, 22:46.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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I guess I was reading too much into your words then. My apologies.Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
Well I suppose its fair I provide figures from Lynn since I use him as a quick and dirty reference (I've disscused the shortcomings with Kitschum a few times, google it up for details) for these things.Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
From "IQ and the wealth of nations" (2002):
Ex-Yugoslavia
95 Slovenia
93 Macedonia
90 Croatia
Balkan non-Yugoslav
94 Romania
93 Bulgaria
93 Greece
For comparison:
107 Hong Kong
102 Austria
100 United Kingdom
97 Canada
93 Ireland
90 Turkey
83 Egpyt
72 Jamaica
Croatia and Slovenia are both rather developed countries. The relativley lower IQ for Slovenia vis a vis with Italy, Austria and even Hungary may be genetic in nature since Slovenia is a developed country according to the IMF and poverty or malnutrition aren't likley explanations. The effect of generations of brain drain or perhaps a less intelectual founding population?
The data for Croatia is probably flawed, it seems too low especially considering the many great contribution of Croatians to the arts and sciences (unlikley with such a low mean IQ and small population).
Data from "IQ and Global Inequality" (2006)
Ex-Yugoslavia
91 Macedonia
90 Croatia
90 Bosnia and Herzegovina
Balkan non-Yugoslav
96 Moldova
94 Romania
92 Bulgaria
92 Greece
90 Albania
For comparison:
108 Hong Kong
100 Austria
100 United Kingdom
92 Ireland
90 Mexico
90 Turkey
81 Egypt
71 JamaicaModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Recently, a good friend of mine was mugged and had his wallet stolen by a gang of criminal Slovenian scum. I wish they would deport these people since they have no place in a civilized state like Texas.
Excuse me while I read my copy of Arthur de Gobineau's "Essay on the Inequality of the Human Races" and horsewhip my colored servants for slacking off.Comment
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Excerpts from teh wikipedia article on "IQ and the Wealth of Nations":
For 104 of the 185 nations, no studies were available. In those cases, the authors have used an estimated value by taking averages of the IQs of neighboring or comparable nations. For example, the authors arrived at a figure of 84 for El Salvador by averaging their calculations of 79 for Guatemala and 88 for Colombia.
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For People's Republic of China, the authors used a figure of 109.4 for Shanghai and adjusted it down by an arbitrary 6 points because they believed the average across China's rural areas was probably less than that in Shanghai. Another figure from a study done in Beijing was not adjusted downwards. Those two studies formed the resultant score for China (PRC).
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In some cases, the IQ of a country is estimated by averaging the IQs of countries that are not actually neighbors of the country in question. For example, Kyrgyzstan's IQ is estimated by averaging the IQs of Iran and Turkey, neither of which is close to Kyrgyzstan—China, which is a geographic neighbor, is not counted as such by Lynn and Vanhanen. This is presumably because the ethnic groups of the area speak Iranian and Turkic languages, but do not include Chinese.
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The figures were obtained by taking unweighted averages of different IQ tests. The number of studies is very limited; the IQ figure is based on one study in 34 nations, two studies in 30 nations. There were actual tests for IQ in 81 nations. In 104 of the world's nations there were no IQ studies at all and IQ was estimated based on IQ in surrounding nations.[4] The number of participants in each study was usually limited, often numbering under a few hundred. The exceptions to this were the United States and Japan, for which studies using more than several thousand participants are available.
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Studies that were averaged together often used different methods of IQ testing, different scales for IQ values and/or were done decades apart. IQ in children is different although correlated with IQ later in life and many of the studies tested only young children.
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There are also errors in the raw data presented by authors. The results from Vinko Buj's 1981 study of 21 European cities and the Ghanaian capital Accra used different scaling from Lynn and Vanhanen's. A comparison of the reported to actual data from only a single study found 5 errors in 19 reported IQ scores.
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As noted earlier, in many cases arbitrary adjustments were made by authors to account for the Flynn effect or when the authors thought that the studies were not representative of the ethnic or social composition of the nation.Comment
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To get a feeling what the Balkan figures might mean I'm posting this graph, soruce is Linda Susanne Gottfredson (2004)
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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You missed a bit. I've fixed the image.
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I love the fact that "Chemist" is right up there at the top
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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They used to be nearer the bottom, but they stripped out bio-chemists.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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Everyone loves stripped-out biochemist
Accountants are so down the list too
And get to the gym you lazy bastard
Speaking of Erith:
"It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda SmithComment
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