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    I have an unfortunate tendency for sympathy towards the underdog. No one likes or tolerates poor white proles. So I took pity on them.


    I tought that compassion and nonconformity where very SWPL.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

  • #2
    Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
    Ah what a happy coincidence that someone with such well known racist views as Heraclitus has just posted his overwhelmingly

    Name one.

    Edit: Dosen't matter. I've changed my opinions to be a degree more heretical once again in my rant below. I'm sure there is plenty of "racist" things you can mine there.
    Last edited by Heraclitus; April 9, 2010, 10:01.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    • #3
      Originally posted by gribbler View Post

      edit: what is this? editing???
      Sorry, realized that I'm not going to get anything done by posting "I'm not racist." Of course a racist usually dosen't want to be called racist.


      I can either accept the label or I can continue to restate my views knowing full well they are likley to be ignored. One can make a case that I am racialist (depending on how they define the word) or a race realist and a nativist. Slovenia is a nation state, I wish to keep it that way since its the only way to ensure my children have a place where they can be free and where trust in society is high (studies have confirmed diversity=low trust in goverment and low investment in society in general).

      I think Slovenia belongs to Slovenians and the other constitutionally recognized aboriginal ethnic groups (Italians and Hungarians), Gypsies also have a place in my mind despite not being in the constitution, I think they should be included in an amendment since there is evidence they have been here since the 15th century. Other ethnicities should be ruthlessly assimilated if real assimilation is impossible their immigration should not be accepted and they deserve no special treatment compared to the majority. There are just a few hundred thousand reproductive age Slovenians, after centuries of repression, enslavement and the horrors of WW2 work and concentration camps we finally get our own tiny state and now we hear how we somehow benefited from "white privilige" all along, and that colonialism is our fault as well because we are European and we need to repent for this by giving up our country and identity. This is followed by such ominus EU reports and recomendations such as that Slovenia has enough room for another 8 million people and that the union should urge us to accept them by 2100.

      I think assimilating Africans and most Middle Easteners may be impossible due to low IQs and high criminality in Africans and the cultural challenges of Islam in the Middle Easterners (Boshniak Muslims are a easier nut to crack). Indians and Chinese? Perhaps, but they are a far larger nations that ours, if we let a few 100k they will not assimilate no matter what we do and they will always be plainly reminded of their origins and will have ethnic solidarity for each other.

      Actually I'll edit this again. I don't want my kids to be a market dominant minority hated like the Jews where in Germany or the Indians in East Africa. I also don't want my genes or culture to go extinct, and I challenge anyone here to say that is unnatural or wrong. I want to live in a safe, advanced, trusting and free society standing on its own feet rather than on other's backs. If that makes me racist. Then I goddam well am a racist and a proud one. My people never wanted foreign land or glory just to be left alone, and I stand by that now more than ever. **** imperialism! **** repression! **** the Western elites and their dreams of global dominion.

      Rant over.

      Originally posted by gribbler View Post
      So why does everyone think you are?
      The racist gf thread. It probably wouldn't have stuck if I hadn't had the HBD phase right after that as well. I do admit I've discovered nationalism as well in recent weeks, mostly because I've realized just how politically incorect I am.
      Last edited by Heraclitus; April 9, 2010, 10:21.
      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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      • #4
        Uhh it might have something to do with you saying that africans have "low IQs"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
          Sorry, realized that I'm not going to get anything done by posting "I'm not racist." Of course a racist usually dosen't want to be called racist.

          I can either accept the label or I can continue to restate my views knowing full well they are likley to be ignored. One can make a case that I am racialist (depending on how they define the word) or a race realist and a nativist. Slovenia is a nation state, I wish to keep it that way since its the only way to ensure my children have a place where they can be free and where trust in society is high (studies have confirmed diversity=low trust in goverment and low investment in society in general).

          I think Slovenia belongs to Slovenians and the other constitutionally recognized aboriginal ethnic groups (Italians and Hungarians), Gypsies also have a place in my mind despite not being in the constitution, I think they should be included in an amendment since there is evidence they have been here since the 15th century. Other ethnicities should be ruthlessly assimilated if real assimilation is impossible their immigration should not be accepted and they deserve no special treatment compared to the majority. There are just a few hundred thousand reproductive age Slovenians, after centuries of repression, enslavement and the horrors of WW2 work and concentration camps we finally get our own tiny state and now we hear how we somehow benefited from "white privilige" all along, and that colonialism is our fault as well because we are European and we need to repent for this by giving up our country and identity. This is followed by such ominus EU reports and recomendations such as that Slovenia has enough room for another 8 million people and that the union should urge us to accept them by 2100.

          I think assimilating Africans and most Middle Easteners may be impossible due to low IQs and high criminality in Africans and the cultural challenges of Islam in the Middle Easterners (Boshniak Muslims are an easier nut to crack). Indians and Chinese? Perhaps, but they are a far larger nations that ours, if we let a few 100k they will not assimilate no matter what we do and they will always be plainly reminded of their origins and will have ethnic solidarity for each other.

          Actually I'll edit this again. I don't want my kids to be a market dominant minority hated like the Jews where in Germany or the Indians in East Africa. I also don't want my genes or culture to go extinct, and I challenge anyone here to say that is unnatural or wrong. I want to live in a safe, advanced, trusting and free society standing on its own feet rather than on other's backs. If that makes me racist. Then I goddam well am a racist and a proud one. My people never wanted foreign land or glory just to be left alone, and I stand by that now more than ever. **** imperialism! **** repression! **** the Western elites and their dreams of global dominion.
          'I goddam well am a racist and a proud one'... Straight from the horse's mouth!

          If only it were that easy to get Caligastia to admit to his racism...
          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            Uhh it might have something to do with you saying that africans have "low IQs"
            Average IQ's differ by racial groups. All experts agree on this. Some attribute it to flaws in testing, others to environmental factors others yet to genetics, most admit some mix of the three.



            There are two arguments you can make about this that would perhaps make this fact irrelevant in the debate.
            1. Its entirely environmental
            2. IQ dosen't measure inteligence

            I can conceed both these points if you like. It still dosen't change the fact IQ measures "doing well and being healthy and happy" in a European type civilization pretty well. Dosen't change the fact that all attempts to close the gap have failed, improvements in lviing conditons have seen all people gain IQ points over time, but the gap remains constant.


            And the suspicius thing is that no matter which test you take or who develops the test the gap remains (note I'm talking about SES adjusted values here) on practically any "inteligence", proficiency or even just plain knowledge test. And the gaps look remarkably constant. Wouldn't you expect for there to be different biases depending on who makes the test? If it was all down to bias wouldn't you expect perhaps blacks doing best with Asians second and whites last on a test instead of seeing the same order on all tests (esp. those designed by non-whites or non-asians)?


            Dismiss IQ adjusted for SES and how different groups regress to different means this leaves LSAT, MCAT, SAT, NLSY, NAEP, AVASB, GRE, WISC, ect.


            Perhaps this is just societies fault. But if it is why should we (people who owe the third and western world nothing historically speaking) carry the burden of fixing something apparently so difficult and expensive to fix in our own back yards?
            Last edited by Heraclitus; April 9, 2010, 14:37.
            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
              'I goddam well am a racist and a proud one'... Straight from the horse's mouth!

              If only it were that easy to get Caligastia to admit to his racism...
              I admit to being racist under the terms I defined. I know its a horrible heresy worthy of being burned at the stake but I beg all my readers to refrain from kneejerk reaction and be intelectually daring. There is plenty of time to stone or imprison me for toughtcrimes later.


              Answer my question "What is wrong with wanting your genes and culture to survive?" Esp. If one does not harm other sentient agents in the procces.
              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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              • #8
                Thread for Heraclitus to continue his theories on race

                Here you go. Nice shiny new thready-wead for you, so stop arseing up the UK election thread.

                Incidentally, speaking on behalf of all Western Europe I'd just like to remind you that Africa starts at Austria's southern/eastern borders.
                The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                • #9
                  This is nice. He can put all of his updates on scientific knowledge as he moves from 19th century textbooks into the 20th century.
                  Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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                  • #10
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post

                      Incidentally, speaking on behalf of all Western Europe I'd just like to remind you that Africa starts at Austria's southern/eastern borders.



                      Ouch.
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • #12
                        For some reason, when I see his name I think "Here a clit is".

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
                          Here you go. Nice shiny new thready-wead for you, so stop arseing up the UK election thread.

                          Incidentally, speaking on behalf of all Western Europe I'd just like to remind you that Africa starts at Austria's southern/eastern borders.
                          Sorry for the threadjack, If you d like I can even edit my posts and link to this thread if you like. You need to put [serious] in the thread title if you want firmer moderation, poly has been rather pro free speech latley.

                          Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post

                          Incidentally, speaking on behalf of all Western Europe I'd just like to remind you that Africa starts at Austria's southern/eastern borders.
                          I don't know why some people in this thread consider being an African an insult? Talk about racism
                          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                          • #14
                            But clits are good. :shrug:

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cort Haus View Post
                              But clits are good. :shrug:
                              Only if they're on your tongue. [/Grandpa Troll]
                              "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                              "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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