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  • Ann Coulter cries that Canada is bullying her

    Cancels one of her speeches accordingly.

    Poor little girl.


    Organizers have cancelled a University of Ottawa speech by right-wing American pundit Ann Coulter after deciding it wasn't safe to hold the event.

    The move followed boisterous demonstrations outside that some sponsors of the appearance feared could turn violent.

    “There was a risk there could be physical violence,” said Canadian conservative activist Ezra Levant, who was scheduled to introduce Ms. Coulter.

    Authorities evacuated the University of Ottawa building where Ms. Coulter was due to speak after someone triggered a fire alarm.

    The evacuation took place as throngs of anti-Coulter demonstrators yelled for her to leave.

    “No more hate speech on our campus,” demonstrators chanted.

    Ms. Coulter, riding a wave of controversy over her speaking tour of Canada, says she’s being treated unfairly here because she’s conservative.

    In an unusual move, the University of Ottawa sent her a warning before her speech, cautioning Ms. Coulter to watch her words lest she face criminal charges for promoting hatred in Canada.

    “I hereby encourage you to educate yourself, if need be, as to what is acceptable in Canada and to do so before your planned visit here,” University of Ottawa academic vice-president François Houle wrote.

    “Promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges.”

    Speaking to CTV’s Power Play Tuesday, Ms. Coulter suggested there’s a double standard at work in Canada because left-wing provocateur Michael Moore doesn’t receive the same kind of forewarnings.

    “Does Michael Moore get a letter reminding him to be civil and threatening him with criminal prosecution?” Ms. Coulter said.

    Ms. Coulter has made a career of outrageous statements, including her post-9/11 call for Islamic countries to be invaded, their leaders killed and all Muslims converted to Christianity. In 2007, she said “if we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president.” In an April 2008 column she described Barack Obama’s book Dreams From My Father as a “Dimestore Mein Kampf.”

    Ms. Coulter is part of what former Bush speechwriter David Frum calls the U.S. “conservative entertainment complex” -- the group of radio and TV industry commentators “that makes its living by whipping people up.”

    “Angry people listen to the radio longer,” Mr. Frum told CBC TV Monday night. “They hear more ads and that pays more into the system of the talk radio industry. It’s in their interest to make people upset so they will listen to the ads.”

    Civil libertarians decried the University of Ottawa’s treatment of Ms. Coulter, saying it’s out of line for an educational institution to be telling people to watch their words.

    “It could be interpreted as an attempt to curtail speech,” Nathalie Des Rosiers, general counsel for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association said.

    “I don’t think it’s appropriate to warn speakers. Regardless of how bigoted and terrible a speaker she is, she’s entitled to freedom of expression and Canadians have a right to hear her views.”

    Ms. Coulter defended her nasty tone as political satire employed to force change -- and a popular draw for audiences. “They wouldn’t be bringing me in here for a speech if I never told a joke, if I never used satire.”

    She is a syndicated columnist for Universal Press Syndicate and in addition to appearing on U.S. talk shows, writes a legal affairs column for the conservative publication Human Events.

    Ms. Coulter is visiting three universities during her trip to Canada, speaking at the University of Western Ontario, the University of Ottawa and the University of Calgary. The visit is being sponsored by the International Free Press Society, which promotes free speech, as well as the U.S.-based Clare Booth Luce Policy Institute, which encourages conservatism among young women.

    Mr. Levant, on the advisory board of the International Free Press Society, said University of Ottawa has “proved the point of the whole tour,” Mr. Levant said.

    “And isn’t it ironic that it takes a provocative American coming to Canada to reveal the shortcomings in Canadian free speech?”

    During her Monday night speech at the University of Western Ontario, Ms. Coulter told a Muslim women to “take a camel” if she couldn’t fly.

    Fatima Al-Dhaher, a political science student, complained about Ms. Coulter’s comments on Islam, including her suggestion that Muslims denied air travel use “flying carpets.”

    “As a 17-year-old student of this university, Muslim, should I be converted to Christianity? Second of all, since I don’t have a magic carpet, what other modes do you suggest,” Ms. Al-Dhaher said, according to the London Free Press.

    After being pressed to answer the question, Ms. Coulter said: “What mode of transportation? Take a camel.”

    On CTV, she defended the camel comment, saying she was trying to give a more nuanced answer but was being heckled to respond quickly and so resorted to a quip.

    Also, at the University of Western Ontario on Monday, Ms. Coulter attacked feminists, gays and “illegal aliens,” saying liberals in the U.S. regularly complain their rights are being attacked in the same manner black Americans once were.

    “In America everybody wants to be black. The feminists want to be black, the illegal aliens want to be black, the gays want to be black,” she said, according to the London Free Press.

    But none of these groups have serious grounds to complain, Ms. Coulter said.

    “There are only two things gay men can’t do. Number one, get married to each other. Number two, throw a baseball without looking like a girl.”
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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  • #2
    Canadians are ill behaved, everyone knows that.
    Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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    • #3
      the University of Ottawa sent her a warning before her speech, cautioning Ms. Coulter to watch her words lest she face criminal charges for promoting hatred in Canada.
      And now we know the real reason she canceled.
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      • #4
        I kinda wish she didn't get the warning, just so we can keep her forever out of the country like Fred Phelps...
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #5
          Comparing someone to Phelps? Is there a term for that.
          Everybody knows...Democracy...One of Us Cannot be Wrong...War...Fanatics

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          • #6
            Nonexistent, considering no one did such a thing?
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #7
              hate speech

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              • #8
                Actually, she was warned prior to entry.

                In advance of her visit, a senior official at the school sent Coulter a letter warning her to use “restraint, respect and consideration” in her remarks and telling her to review the country’s hate speech and defamation laws.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  I kinda wish she didn't get the warning, just so we can keep her forever out of the country like Fred Phelps...
                  He's barred from Canada? Splendid!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Elok View Post
                    He's barred from Canada? Splendid!
                    Glad to keep him all for yourself?
                    "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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                    • #11
                      the "hate speech" law is pretty ridiculous.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
                        hate speech
                        Oh, yes. In most western countries such an obvious and obnoxious troll would have been tossed in the dungeon long ago.
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EPW View Post
                          the "hate speech" law is pretty ridiculous.
                          What part of it?

                          Under section 318 of the Criminal Code of Canada, it is illegal to promote genocide. Under section 319, it is illegal to publicly incite hatred against people based on their colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, and sexual orientation, except where the statements made are true or are made in good faith. The prohibition against inciting hatred based on sexual orientation was added to the section in 2004 with the passage of Bill C-250.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #14
                            The actual text of the law:

                            Section 318: Hate Propaganda

                            (1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

                            Definition of "genocide"
                            (2) In this section, "genocide" means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,

                            (a) killing members of the group; or

                            (b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction.

                            Consent (3) No proceeding for an offence under this section shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.

                            Definition of "identifiable group"
                            (4) In this section, "identifiable group" means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.

                            Section 319

                            (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of

                            (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

                            (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

                            Wilful promotion of hatred
                            (2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of

                            (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

                            (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

                            Defences
                            (3) No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2)

                            (a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true;

                            (b) if, in good faith, he expressed or attempted to establish by argument an opinion on a religious subject;

                            (c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or

                            (d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of removal, matters producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada.

                            Forfeiture
                            (4) Where a person is convicted of an offence under section 318 or subsection (1) or (2) of this section, anything by means of or in relation to which the offence was committed, on such conviction, may, in addition to any other punishment imposed, be ordered by the presiding provincial court judge or judge to be forfeited to Her Majesty in right of the province in which that person is convicted, for disposal as the Attorney General may direct.

                            Exemption from seizure of communication facilities
                            (5) Subsections 199(6) and (7) apply with such modifications as the circumstances require to section 318 or subsection (1) or (2) of this section.

                            Consent (6) No proceeding for an offence under subsection (2) shall be instituted without the consent of the Attorney General.

                            (7) In this section,

                            "communicating" includes communicating by telephone, broadcasting or other audible or visible means;

                            "identifiable group" has the same meaning as in section 318;

                            "public place" includes any place to which the public have access as of right or by invitation, express or implied;

                            "statements" includes words spoken or written or recorded electronically or electro-magnetically or otherwise, and gestures, signs or other visible representations.

                            Subsection 718.2

                            A court that imposes a sentence shall also take into consideration the following principles:

                            (a) a sentence should be increased or reduced to account for any relevant aggravating or mitigating circumstances relating to the offence or the offender, and, without limiting the generality of the foregoing,

                            (i) evidence that the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or any other similar factor,

                            (ii) evidence that the offender, in committing the offence, abused the offender's spouse or common-law partner or child,

                            (iii) evidence that the offender, in committing the offence, abused a position of trust or authority in relation to the victim,

                            (iv) evidence that the offence was committed for the benefit of, at the direction of or in association with a criminal organization, or

                            (v) evidence that the offence was a terrorism offence

                            shall be deemed to be aggravating circumstances;

                            (b) a sentence should be similar to sentences imposed on similar offenders for similar offences committed in similar circumstances;

                            (c) where consecutive sentences are imposed, the combined sentence should not be unduly long or harsh;

                            (d) an offender should not be deprived of liberty, if less restrictive sanctions may be appropriate in the circumstances; and

                            (e) all available sanctions other than imprisonment that are reasonable in the circumstances should be considered for all offenders, with particular attention to the circumstances of aboriginal offenders.
                            It seems quite reasonable to me.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              doesn't seem reasonable at all to me.
                              "

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