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  • Oh, I'm sure Ben will have his own unique spin on this.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • Obviously, the Church is being magnanimous and gracious here, submitting to the wicked law just as Christ did.
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      • I'm still not totally convinced that the Church's abuse of children is significantly higher than the "normal" number of cases you'd get in the context of adults having to deal regularly with children. Especially at a time where society was much more authoritarian and it was normal to beat kids.
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        • Then where's the public education scandal of the past 50 years (and that's only what we have documented in the RCC)?
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          • We do not have adverse data for a lot of Catholic countries, because it was the clergy in charge of education.
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            • Looks like this story got missed. It looks like the Jews are to blame-

              A furious transatlantic row has erupted over quotes that were attributed to a retired Italian bishop, which suggested that Jews were behind the current criticism of the Catholic church's record on tackling clerical sex abuse.

              A website quoted Giacomo Babini, the emeritus bishop of Grosseto, as saying he believed a "Zionist attack" was behind the criticism, considering how "powerful and refined" the criticism is.

              The comments, which have been denied by the bishop, follow a series of statements from Catholic churchmen alleging the existence of plots to weaken the church and Pope Benedict XVI.

              Allegedly speaking to the Catholic website Pontifex, Babini, 81, was quoted as saying: "They do not want the church, they are its natural enemies. Deep down, historically speaking, the Jews are God killers."

              The interview was spotted on Friday by the American Jewish Committee, which said Babini was using "slanderous stereotypes, which sadly evoke the worst Christian and Nazi propaganda prior to world war two".

              On its website, the American Jewish Group Committee quoted bishop Vincenzo Paglia, an official at the Italian Bishops' Conference, as saying Babini's remarks were "entirely contrary to the official line and mainstream thought of the Catholic church".

              As the interview appeared on Italy's main newspaper sites today, complete with the American reaction, the Bishops' Conference rushed out a statement quoting Babini denying he had ever given the interview in the first place. "Statements I have never made about our Jewish brothers have been attributed to me," he said.

              Babini has previously been quoted on the Pontifex website accusing Jews of exploiting the Holocaust, as well as criticising homosexuality.

              As cases of alleged priestly abuse emerge in the US and Europe, Benedict's handling of proven molesters before he became pope in 2005 has now been questioned in cases in Munich, Wisconsin and, most recently, in California, where his signature appears on an 1985 letter resisting calls to defrock a paedophile priest
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              • 'cause it's just like the holocaust.
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                • Originally posted by Oncle Boris View Post
                  I'm still not totally convinced that the Church's abuse of children is significantly higher than the "normal" number of cases you'd get in the context of adults having to deal regularly with children. Especially at a time where society was much more authoritarian and it was normal to beat kids.
                  A Norwegian paper(the article is not on the internet) refered to an American study showing the percent of pedophily number in the RCC in the US to be slightly lower than in other fields, like schools and scouts.
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                    • Not as good as cat pope:

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                      • Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                        • Originally posted by Nikolai View Post
                          A Norwegian paper(the article is not on the internet) refered to an American study showing the percent of pedophily number in the RCC in the US to be slightly lower than in other fields, like schools and scouts.
                          I bet the study was based on "crime per catholic person" and not "crime per child who actually goes to church". How about comparing "crime per alter boy" to 'crime per student"?
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                          • I don't think any "study" will ever be able to answer that question. There are just too many unkowns on all sides of the equation, especially since this type of abuse is usually under reported, and who knows for sure how many of the accusations are real.

                            However what we do know is that the RCC made a big effort to cover it up... to the point of threatening victims, moving accused priests elsewhere so they could continue to abuse more children, and didn't start changing their ways until they no longer had a choice in the matter. This is the real sin/crime. Even if RCC priests abuse children at the same levels as the rest of the population, more or less, doesn't really matter. The real problem is how the RCC responded to it. They acted as enablers, and allowed it to continue just to protect their image. And that's what makes this so bad... an institution that claims to watch over the souls of their flock allowed the innocent children to be abused.
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                            • Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
                              Not as good as cat pope:


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