Americans, control your women!

[HalfLotus]

It was the obvious intent of media to spread fear. So many headlines, fear, fear, fear.

Even if 'nobody' bought it, which is a ridiculous assertion, it's still fear-mongering.

The personal anecdotes are cute though. Eco from the block, yo!

[Wezil]

I hear what you are saying HL but I have to agree with Eco in that this was media sensationalism. That doesn't mean the authorities don't try to raise fear for political reasons (the GWB admin excelled at it), I just don't see it this time.

[Ecofarm]

So if the media prints:

"The FBI was scared about this possibility".
"Bob is terrified".
"Some other people fear this is a new development".
"Sue peed her pants".

That's fearmongering? Get real... "if the media uses the word 'fear', it's mongering"; that's retarded. They didn't say that anyone needed to be scared, they just reported (sensationalized) on those who wanted some press.



Let me show you...


Headline: Twenty-seven Jihad-Janes are likely posed to strike at churches around the country tomorrow. Don't trust anyone who is female and blond, whatever you do.


Now, THAT'S fearmongering. Get a clue.

[HalfLotus]

I just don't see it this time.

We have a woman whose ringleaders, the 'Waterford 7', have been charged with passport problems and menacing phone calls, that's it. But it was drummed up as some violent, terrorist, jihadist threat to Americans. That's some pretty over-the-top exaggeration, to say the least.

[Ecofarm]

Yeah, umm... to be honest, noone cared in the first place.

1. "She" is ugly.
2. It's in Ireland (do they have the internet?).
3. She was supposedly going to attack a cartoonist.
4. In Sweden.

I can assure you, really, nobody gave a crap. Noone got scared. We have (hot, even) blond chicks over here doing way crazier stuff than that. Go to Walmart sometime, walk with the inbreeders.


Let's face it.

This:

Now that we've all been sufficiently frightened by this alleged 'homegrown' terr'ist (who was evidence of the 'evolution of terrorism' according to hysterical western headlines)...

the image of 'Jihad Jane' served the purpose of scaring sissy Americans out of their wits.

Is completely detached from reality.

Just admit it.

I'm willing to bet noone here at Apolyton got scared, even Americans. Anyone got scared?

[Kidlicious]

No, because it's run by crooks and liars.

Why am I just finding out about this?!

[Kitschum]

You fail again, America!

Now we will most likely have to institute rigorous and thorough strip-searches of American women coming over here. I shudder to think of the poor saps who will be stuck with that job however. The standard set by these American women is downright appalling.

Second US woman swept up in Jihad Jane murder claims

Americans forced to confront reality of possible home-grown extremism

By Stephen Foley in New York

A mother in small town America was last night struggling to understand how her daughter had been swept up in an alleged international plot to kill a Swedish cartoonist who angered Muslims by depicting the Prophet Mohammed as a dog.



The case of Jamie Paulin-Ramirez, a trainee nurse from Leadville in Colorado, who was arrested in Ireland last week, comes on the heels of charges against another American woman, Colleen LaRose from Philadelphia, who called herself "Jihad Jane".

Their twin stories are forcing the US to confront the reality of home-grown fundamentalism, and the ease with which individuals can be sucked into an online network of intolerance and violent conspiracy.
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And in Leadville over the weekend, the parents of Ms Paulin-Ramirez, 31, were in no doubt that – despite the absence of official confirmation from investigating authorities in the US or Ireland – it was "Jihad Jane" who had recruited their daughter into the alleged plot to murder Lars Vilks.

"These terrorists came into my home through the internet, uninvited, and have ripped my family apart," Christine Mott told reporters.

Last night, it appeared that Ms Paulin-Ramirez had been released from custody in Ireland, and her family were seeking news of her six-year-old son with whom she travelled across the Atlantic last year, a few months after converting to Islam. The Algerian man she travelled to marry was believed to be among three of the seven detainees still in custody.

Growing up, Ms Paulin-Ramirez was "the kid in the class everyone picked on and made fun of," Ms Mott told the Associated Press. She was married three times before she left for Ireland, and her first husband used to beat her, she said. Her second husband, the six-year-old's father, was an illegal immigrant from Mexico and was deported years ago.

"I'd yell at her, 'Get off the computer, do something with your son'," Mrs Mott said, adding that her increasing extremism led to her estrangement from the family. "We were enemies. We couldn't even speak to each other. She lost her mind." The Algerian man was Ms LaRose's "main contact" in Europe, Ms Paulin-Ramirez's parents claimed. They had been able to speak regularly with their grandson, Christian, on the phone until the arrest last Tuesday, and had become increasingly angry with their daughter as he was taught how "Christians are going to burn in hellfire". His mother had changed his name to Walid after her conversion.

The images of America's latest homegrown Islamist terror suspects have shaken widely-held beliefs: both Ms Paulin-Ramirez and Ms LaRose are the picture of the all-American blonde. According to prosecutors, Ms LaRose said she thought her blonde hair and blue eyes would help her move freely in Sweden to carry out an attack.

Using the aliases "Jihad Jane" and "Fatima LaRose", Ms LaRose allegedly targeted Mr Vilks after he had infuriated Muslims by depicting the Prophet with the body of a dog. She is said to have had online discussions about how to kill him with at least one of the seven suspects picked up in Ireland. Those detained were two Algerians, two Libyans, a Croatian and a Palestinian, as well as Ms Paulin-Ramirez.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/second-us-woman-swept-up-in-jihad-jane-murder-claims-1921435.html

[Ecofarm]

You fail again, America! ...

The standard set by these American women is downright appalling.

That's true.

[BlackCat]

You fail again, America!

Now we will most likely have to institute rigorous and thorough strip-searches of American women coming over here. I shudder to think of the poor saps who will be stuck with that job however. The standard set by these American women is downright appalling.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-1921435.html

Well, on one side I pity those poor bastards that have to do that job - on the other hand, chopping off swedish heads, well, that is a good old danish habit, so I'm not quite sure what to say

[Kitschum]

Actually, Vilks isn't really Swedish. I'm not sure why we're protecting him. He's a citizen of Ladonia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladonia_%28micronation%29

http://www.ladonia.net/

[BlackCat]

Yeah, I'v heard about that "country" - swedish police wasn't able to "invade" it, so it was "ignored"

[Wezil]

We have a woman whose ringleaders, the 'Waterford 7', have been charged with passport problems and menacing phone calls, that's it. But it was drummed up as some violent, terrorist, jihadist threat to Americans. That's some pretty over-the-top exaggeration, to say the least.

By the media, not the government.

[HalfLotus]

I don't know how you can say that with certainty. The truth is, we really don't know what exactly the government is up to, so we have to put the pieces together ourselves. It's not like the Pentagon is going to send out a press release, "Hey, we're running an 'Al-Qaeda in America' psyop this week!".

We know the Pentagon engages in propaganda efforts. We know they have used individual terrorists as a centerpiece for psyop campaigns directed at the American people. We know they are capable of wielding undue influence on the corporate media.

When you see a 'terrorist' plastered over the media for a week, and then her recruiters are charged with little more than passport violations, it makes you wonder.

The guys in Ireland held the first private court hearing in that country ever. This woman chose to waive her right to speedy indictment, and has been essentially voluntarily held for 5 months. She was 'turned in' by muslim-hating fanatics at the Jawa Report, who are linked to GOP/right-wing anti-muslim propagandists. Seems fishy to me.

We may find out for sure if a ballsy reporter, like a Seymour Hersh, ferrets out the truth. We may find out if some insider goes Ellsberg on them and releases incriminating documents. Or we may find out when documents are unclassified many years down the road.

[Jon Miller]

You fail again, America!

Now we will most likely have to institute rigorous and thorough strip-searches of American women coming over here. I shudder to think of the poor saps who will be stuck with that job however. The standard set by these American women is downright appalling.

I have only been to Sweden and Israel, but US women are not so attractive (generally) compared to those two countries.

I think it isn't inherent attractiveness, but rather the common obesity.

JM

[Ecofarm]

I don't know how you can say that with certainty. The truth is, we really don't know what exactly the government is up to, so we have to put the pieces together ourselves. It's not like the Pentagon is going to send out a press release, "Hey, we're running an 'Al-Qaeda in America' psyop this week!".

I know quite exactly what my government is doing, because it is made of my colleagues. You're a fkn lunatic.

We know the Pentagon engages in propaganda efforts. We know they have used individual terrorists as a centerpiece for psyop campaigns directed at the American people.

Crazy talk.

We know they are capable of wielding undue influence on the corporate media.

Oh, yeah! That's why Bush was such a media darling.

When you see a 'terrorist' plastered over the media for a week, and then her recruiters are charged with little more than passport violations, it makes you wonder...

It makes YOU wonder. The rest of us are sane.

Seems fishy to me.

You are WAY, WAY fishier.

We may find out for sure if a ballsy reporter, like a Seymour Hersh, ferrets out the truth. We may find out if some insider goes Ellsberg on them and releases incriminating documents. Or we may find out when documents are unclassified many years down the road.

Or maybe it is exactly what it seems. And what would war atrocities have to do with this? I bet you are just throwing that name out there. But as long as you want to bring up his name, let's consider for a moment... Abu Graib abuse was not a government operation, it was a few criminals who overstepped their authority and were convicted and sentenced for doing so. It was not a "Pentagon Special PsyOp Campaign". So your reference to him is purely inflamatory, bares no relevance to this event and is the move of an intellectually dishonest piece of crap.




Further, I bet this lunatic thinks Iran is telling the truth about not wanting nuclear weapons. I bet he thinks every story about terrorism in the US is a Pentagon PsyOp, but he thinks Iran is totally legit.