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  • #61
    I'm skeptical of their appeals to the 'grassroots'. Coffeeparty was started by an Obama campaign operative, I would expect them to support establishment policies and viewpoints.

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    • #62
      Who was the founder of the Tea Party? Someone within the establishment of the Republican party? Or someone from the outside?
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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      • #63
        There is no one founder, as it is actually grass roots. Not that being grass roots is some automatically good thing.

        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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        • #64
          Note that the Tea Party is still largely decentralized. Any claims to 'leaders' of the TP are generally just attempts (by the GOP, in the case of Palin) to co-opt the movement and garner TP votes.

          There is a distinct difference between libertarian TPers like Rand Paul and warmongering 'conservative' Tea-o-cons like Palin.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Patroklos View Post
            There is no one founder, as it is actually grass roots. Not that being grass roots is some automatically good thing.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
            okay, thanks
            A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
              Homosexuals don't listen much to Rush.

              They called themselves Teabaggers first. Deal with it.



              <----Is drinking Irish breakfast tea at the the time of posting.
              Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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              • #67
                Looks like these guys are gaining some momentum. Will cooler heads prevail? Stay tuned!

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                Coffee Party brews up rival for Tea Party

                By Madeleine Morris
                BBC News, Washington

                A grassroots political grouping that has emerged in recent months in opposition to the conservative Tea Party movement has been holding its first national day of meetings in the United States.

                The BBC's Madeleine Morris met some of the members of the Coffee Party in - where else? - a coffee house in Washington.

                Looking for a little bit of civil political discussion with your decaf latte? Well the newly formed Coffee Party movement may be for you.

                Evolving in the United States over the last couple of months through social media in response to the conservative Tea Party movement, coffee partiers share the Tea Party's disillusionment with mainstream politicians.

                Internet traction

                Saturday saw over 350 Coffee Party events held in cafes across the United States and abroad, bringing activists together in person for the first time for a national day of conversation and, of course, espressos and cappuccinos.


                “ We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will ”
                Coffee Party mission statement
                "If our children acted like our politicians are acting right now they would be grounded for a very long time," says Ryan Clayton, a Coffee Party spokesperson in Washington DC.

                Like the Tea Party, the Coffee Party is a movement, not a registered political entity. But that is where the similarities end.

                The Tea Party is a loose affiliation of activists from all over America who are distrustful of the federal government, and what they see as bloated government spending.

                Over the past year Tea Party groups have held a number of loud, angry rallies across America denouncing President Barack Obama and other politicians.

                The first national Tea Party convention in February featured former Alaskan governor Sarah Palin as its keynote speaker. Unlike their Tea Party counterparts, who want a smaller government with less influence, coffee partiers believe government can provide solutions, and they want politicians to work together in a more civilised way.

                "We need to get together as citizens and show them [politicians] that we can sit down and talk about these issues; that we can solve problems and develop solutions; that we may not agree on everything, but that we can agree on a lot," says Mr Clayton.

                Silent majority?

                Founder Annabel Park, who began the Coffee Party on her Facebook page out of anger at the Tea Party and its growing influence, has seen it rapidly gain traction on the internet.


                Its Facebook page has picked up over 138,000 fans in less than two months.

                While the Tea Party can claim to have already helped win elections, including the vote for the new Massachusetts Senator, Scott Brown, can the Coffee Party gain the same sway on American politics?

                "We're trying to approach politics differently so it's hard to compare the level of influence," says Annabel Park.

                "Changing the political culture is not something you can measure by saying how many elections you've won."

                But she maintains the coffee party represents the silent majority, who feel angry at politicians but do not want to voice their frustration by adopting the same aggressive and frequently negative tactics the Tea Party has.

                "The two-party structure is just not working. There are so many of us who feel these labels are outdated, that we're much more complex and interconnected. And people are coming to us exhilarated that there's finally a place for them to have a voice," she says.
                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                "Capitalism ho!"

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                • #68
                  I don't see them accomplishing anything. They want every little group to decide on their own agenda which will result in chaos.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by HalfLotus View Post
                    I'm skeptical of their appeals to the 'grassroots'. Coffeeparty was started by an Obama campaign operative, I would expect them to support establishment policies and viewpoints.
                    Is it a black op?

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                    • #70
                      boo
                      I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                      I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                      • #71
                        I look forward to the future where everyone is their own individual party. Hopefully, religion will take the same route.
                        “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                        "Capitalism ho!"

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
                          They called themselves Teabaggers first. Deal with it.



                          <----Is drinking Irish breakfast tea at the the time of posting.
                          I wonder if they were aware that the gay community was already using the term, and do they know what teabagging is?
                          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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