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How ****ed up is America?
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I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned
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So rather than have prisoners do work, maybe even learn a trade, it's better to have them just sit with time on their hands, thinking and studying possible weaknesses of their confinement?
That's really brilliant.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by Main_Brain View PostI personally dont really doubt wheter the inmates produce the Goods mentioned by Mobius, I challenge the Numbers.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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The big problem is that for a fee for profit companies can pay the state to employee prison labor in for profit ventures so what ever it is a company makes it very well could have been made by forced prison labor.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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The big problem is that for a fee for profit companies can pay the state to employee prison labor in for profit ventures so what ever it is a company makes it very well could have been made by forced prison labor."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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Even if the point is conceded for the sake of argument, why would it matter? It's not like these are gulags. These folks were tried by a jury of their peers and sentenced to actual crimes (not political crimes). They get their three square meals, shelter, and medical attention with costs far exceeding whatever value their work will produce.
For me, the shear numbers of prisoners points to something that the US does differently than all other countries -- it's nothing that can be denied. It gives me pause.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Originally posted by DanS View PostFor me, the shear numbers of prisoners points to something that the US does differently than all other countries -- it's nothing that can be denied. It gives me pause.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Well for the other western democracies, yes of course they do.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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Those are the countries you should be around the same level at though. You shouldn't be anywhere near the repressive dictatorships in terms of prison numbers.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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Not really, just because we are all western democracies does not mean there are not significant differences between us that have dramatic effects on such things."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.
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The dictatorships aren't good comparisons. As stated, we don't have gulags. We don't have any political prisoners other than some strained links created by the likes of Counterpunch.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostNot really, just because we are all western democracies does not mean there are not significant differences between us that have dramatic effects on such things.
The crime rates between UK and US aren't that different, other than you having vastly more murders. But murderers are still a very small proportion of the total prison population.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
We've got both kinds
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