Canada Owned in Health Care Debate

[Asher]

I like this quote about Canadians and thier view of the American Health Care system vs thier own.

Anxiety about Americanization and the constantly reinforced strain of national pride in Canadian health care coexist[s] with considerable uneasiness about the actual state of that care. It is as if, when Canadians look south across the border they swell with pride, but when they look within they shrink back, seeing many problems and feeling uncertainty about the future.

Medicine and the market: Equity v. Choice By Daniel Callahan, Angela A. Wasunna

Of course you would. Thank you for your contribution to this thread.

[Asher]

And it is for Danny Williams, too. You claim that is decision is entirely political.

One guess as to what his occupation is...

Of course, you have no way of knowing. Perhaps the "free" care to which you and he are entitled isn't all that great. Hmmm.

You've no way of knowing this either. You openly admit to not knowing much of anything about Canada's system, yet you think it's something you don't want.

That pretty much sums up the stupidity of Americans in dealing with health care reform. You guys can't be bothered to do research into equitable, functional health care systems because of your stupid pride.

[DinoDoc]

Of course you would. Thank you for your contribution to this thread.

Was this supposed to be a meaningful thread?

[David Floyd]

That pretty much sums up the stupidity of Americans in dealing with health care reform. You guys can't be bothered to do research into equitable, functional health care systems because of your stupid pride.

It has nothing to do with pride. My current health coverage has been perfectly adequate for everything from dental work and preventative care to broken bones to an emergency appendectomy. I'm not gonna fix what ain't broke.

[David Floyd]

Was this supposed to be a meaningful thread?

[Asher]

It has nothing to do with pride. My current health coverage has been perfectly adequate for everything from dental work and preventative care to broken bones to an emergency appendectomy. I'm not gonna fix what ain't broke.

It turns out there's more people in the USA than one David Floyd.

Selfishness will be the end of your country.

[monolith94]

I worked in the billing department of a fairly standard Massachusetts hospital hospitalist department, as a temp, and I remember asking my supervisor what would happen with the patient whose documents I was working on. There was no insurance listed, and no address (homeless). She told me that the hospital would just have to write it off as a loss. I thought, huh. Kind of screws the people who are able to afford an apartment, but not health insurance.

Studies have shown that doctors treat patients who lack insurance dismissively/poorly.

[Drake Tungsten]

Selfishness will be the end of your country.

It's worked pretty well for us so far, although the Baby Boomers have probably taken things too far.

[Flubber]

Either
1. The particular procedure is not available in the province at all so he would have to go elsewhere anyway

or

2. The queue for the surgery may be longer than he is willing to wait and he probably doesn't want the optics of jumpoing the queue in his home province.

In either case he is a very wealthy man so its no big deal for him to pay and yes I will acknowledge you can get some of the best healthcare in the world in the UNited States if you are rich enough. I don't think anyone disputes that.

[MRT144]

Maybe. It still makes Canada's NHS look like a ****pile.

Isn't the fact that they can go to the U.S. a triumph? Seriously, they have the best of both worlds, and we Americans don't get dual benefit like that.

[Drake Tungsten]

Isn't the fact that they can go to the U.S. a triumph? Seriously, they have the best of both worlds, and we Americans don't get dual benefit like that.

QFT. Free-riding is sweet.

[DirtyMartini]

Studies have shown that doctors treat patients who lack insurance dismissively/poorly.

Citation please.

[MRT144]

Isn't the fact that they can go to the U.S. a triumph? Seriously, they have the best of both worlds, and we Americans don't get dual benefit like that.

QFT. Free-riding is sweet.

Lock down the borders!

[Boris Godunov]

A Canadian citizen getting major surgery that he won't have to pay for out-of-pocket is proof that the Canadian healthcare system doesn't work? Yes, I see it clearly now.

[DirtyMartini]

pretty sure he does pay out of pocket for anything he has done in the U.S.