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  • #16
    Originally posted by MikeH View Post


    Sure, there are questions about a lot of areas of climate change, especially in prediction models. But to suggest the entire thing is a co-ordinated hoax as in the OP is denialism IMO.
    I'm on the skeptic side of this but even I will admit that there is some and man had some impact on it. But that's about it. The thing that trips my BS meter the most is the prediction models. And what we're supposed to do about it is up for grabs.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • #17
      Denier = a person who denies. I can't help it if you read unintended subtext into words.

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      • #18
        Oh, come on. Don't be obtuse.
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        • #19
          Whether humans are causing GW or not is moot anyway. World-wide emissions simply can't be reduced without hardship on a massive scale.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by DanS View Post
            No, it has nothing to do with the holocaust. So why did you choose a phrase that is freighted with holocaust baggage?
            your worse then asians who get offended by the word oriental.

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            • #21
              Here's another bit of BS from the AGW crowd (it aint climate change denial, Mike, its AGW skepticism), the notion that man is causing some unprecedented or unusual increase in temperature is false. Ice cores from Greenland show an 18 degree F rise in temperatures within a decade 11.5 kya. We've supposedly "contributed" to a 1-2 degree F rise over the last 100-150 years. Corals from Florida show sea levels were 20 ft higher 125 kya and temperatures were 8-10 degrees F warmer then. That peak was 5-6,000 years into the corresponding interglacial period, today we're 12,000 years into our interglacial period. We're cooling down, if ghgs are doin anything, they're slowing the cooling.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                You are the one trying to convey the full sense of "wrongness" whatever that means, though. I don't really care much though. It just struck me as odd given the idiocy of global warming believers (CRU and the IPCC) of late.
                What a hypnocrat.
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                • #23
                  IPCC's credibility is in the toilet. I don't think True Believers can trot out the "thousands of scientists" line (which was always a suspect statement) to good effect anymore.

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                  • #24
                    HL, stop being an idiot - we have an scientist here on this site that don't think it's weird that data is deleted and that programs isn't documented - that is standard scientific procedure
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                    • #25
                      Actually he's refering to them quoting Climbing magazine and a student thesis to support thier conclusions.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                        Actually he's refering to them quoting Climbing magazine and a student thesis to support thier conclusions.
                        Oups, sorry, I thought that it was about circular peer review - my wrong
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                        • #27
                          All of those have been debunked several times yet here they are being trotted out again. It's like dealing with creationists.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                            Oups, sorry, I thought that it was about circular peer review - my wrong
                            No, this is a new one.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post
                              No, this is a new one.
                              I assume that it hasn't anything to do with this : http://assassinationscience.com/climategate/

                              PS. Don't read that link unless you are a stern beliver - you could be loured into another belief.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                                All of those have been debunked several times yet here they are being trotted out again. It's like dealing with creationists.
                                True, but those darn alarmists won't shut up even when proven wrong
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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