20th Century Presidents hurt or heal

[Asher]

Most of us weren't around to care about Hoover or Harding.

[rah]

Laughing @ people who think the president is the primary mover of the the American economy. Who is it that controls spending again? And even then, outside influences usually play a bigger role. It's like those that blame Bush for the economic fallout from 9-11. Was it his fault that people drastically reduced their flying and vacations afterwards?

[MikeH]

Yeah, I was around when Reagan was ****ing **** up

[Asher]

Laughing @ people who think the president is the primary mover of the the American economy. Who is it that controls spending again? And even then, outside influences usually play a bigger role. It's like those that blame Bush for the economic fallout from 9-11. Was it his fault that people drastically reduced their flying and vacations afterwards?

Arguably, because it was on his watch that 9-11 happened even though there was good Intel to warn about it that his administration ignored.

[rah]

We had been receiving those types of warnings prior to his taking office and I have no doubt that Clinton still being in office wouldn't have made a different, but yeah, maybe not the best example.

[MikeH]

Anyway, misguided Reagan fans are easy targets for trolling and we've done that successfully. WIN!

[rah]

Yeah, kind of like the next generation fans in the star trek one.

[Boris Godunov]

EPW, it might help if you standardized the method for noting heals and hurts.

Since it was messed up, that actually changes what my vote would be. I'd add 1 to Kennedy instead of FDR today.

[RGBVideo]

misguided

you guys don't know have a clue what you're talking about. we're wasting our time.

[Asher]

you guys don't know have a clue what you're talking about. we're wasting our time.

Why is it that Finns are so damn adorable?

[BeBMan]

I'm also surprised how much Reagan hate there is. And Carter hate for that matter.

I'm still angry that DS9 lost so early in the ST thing, so I direct my rage against Reagan

[Guynemer]

Why is it that Finns are so damn adorable?

Your premise is flawed. My ears still ring with the drunken shouts of "Valtteri!" from a month ago.

****ing Finns.

[Theben]

Clinton 14
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan 1
Ford 8--
Nixon 6
Johnson 10
Kennedy 6+
Eisenhower 11
Truman 11
F. Roosevelt 15
Hoover 8
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 11
McKinley 10

Fixed fixed, as JM's point for Reagan should've made it 3. And not that I'm a big fan of his, but I figure he won't last long and Ford was pretty worthless.

[Jon Miller]

I did not vote for Reagan. I voted for Truman.

JM

[Dinner]

Clinton +1
Reagan -2

So...

Clinton 15
Bush Sr. 10
Reagan -1 Reagan is out!
Ford 8--
Nixon 6
Johnson 10
Kennedy 6+
Eisenhower 11
Truman 11
F. Roosevelt 15
Hoover 8
Coolidge 10
Harding 8
Wilson 10
Taft 10
T. Roosevelt 11
McKinley 10