How do non-believers explain this?

[MrFun]

A problem with believers and non-believers alike is the assumption that God works exclusively through irrational, fantastic, non-scientific means, and that all rational, scientifically observed phenomena have no room for God.

Which is why I would like to hear a scientific explanation of this, if there is one. Best not to assume, one way or the other.

[Japher]

Here's how I explain it; Mike is an idiot.

"His life began in my hands," Hermanstorfer said. "That's a feeling like none other. Life actually began in the palm of my hands."

Life begins at conception, duh.

[Traianvs]

What is wrong with asking the perspective of non-believers about this?

I would be curious as to any scientific explanation that a non-believer can provide.

Just because we don't know the answer to this particular case doesn't mean it has to be divine intervention. As to a scientific explanation: even as a doctor it's most likely almost impossible without knowing the details of the case.

A rather obvious answer from a non-believer...

[Darius871]

What is wrong with asking the perspective of non-believers about this?

I would be curious as to any scientific explanation that a non-believer can provide.

What Traianvs said. To my knowledge there are only ~2 doctors on the OTF, and precisely 0 doctors with sufficient facts on this particular case to offer anything beyond wild speculation, so you're asking a question you (should) know can't be answered. And that's leaving aside where the burden of proof ought to be in the first place.

[MrFun]

Just because we don't know the answer to this particular case doesn't mean it has to be divine intervention.

I agree - it could be either divine intervention, or scientifically-based. I'll leave this as a reply to Darius, as well.

[Darius871]

it could be either divine intervention, or scientifically-based.

So we're back to square one then? What's the point of the discussion? It "could" have been a psychokinetic wave sent from my jerking off at the time as well.

[Imran Siddiqui]

... what the ****, Mr Fun?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Uniporn

[Kidlicious]

A problem with believers and non-believers alike is the assumption that God works exclusively through irrational, fantastic, non-scientific means, and that all rational, scientifically observed phenomena have no room for God.

God has created the world around us and science is a tool for understanding the world around us. God works in and through the world, so his works and his deeds can, in one way or another, be understood by science.

So if I build a model airplane and leave it at the park you can tell who made it?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

So if I build a model airplane and leave it at the park you can tell who made it?

Given the surity that the "air plane" likely has no wings and is intended to navigate underwater, and the fact that it has your fingerprints all over it, I could hazard a guess.

[MrFun]

Damn it - I was going to make a post about fingerprints.

[Asher]

Is this a joke thread?

[DaShi]

MrFun=the straight Ben

[Solomwi]

A problem with believers and non-believers alike is the assumption that God works exclusively through irrational, fantastic, non-scientific means, and that all rational, scientifically observed phenomena have no room for God.

God has created the world around us and science is a tool for understanding the world around us. God works in and through the world, so his works and his deeds can, in one way or another, be understood by science.

More accurately, rational, scientific phenomena have no need for God. Sure, one can still hold the belief you outline, but all you've done is introduce an unnecessary element to the explanation of the phenomenon.

[Cort Haus]

What Traianvs said.