200 year old beer (and butter!) found at the bottom of the Baltic Sea

[Felch]

Llamas too.

[Elok]

What about the Bison or the Buffalo? I am pretty sure the Buffalo provides milk.

Huh. Come to think of it, it might make milk-worthy cheese. Now I wonder why no tribes domesticated the beasts for labor purposes. But I'm not sure how well Bison Cheese would go with fries and Ranch dressing. And they didn't have bacon.

[Wezil]

No doubt. The Ancient Egyptians were hardcore with their beer. The week was 11 days long. The 11th day -- the weekend -- was for beermaking.

They should have used the 11th day for beer drinking.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's what the rest of the week is for

Oh, and Dogfish Head's Midas Touch, linked by Drake, is delicious!

[Dinner]

No doubt. The Ancient Egyptians were hardcore with their beer. The week was 11 days long. The 11th day -- the weekend -- was for beermaking.

But I don't know that we would recognize it as beer by taste. I guess you might be able to find a beer without hops in a big liquor store.

The only ones I can think of are a few makers using traditional recipes for Scots Heather Ale or Scots Pine Ale. I'm sure there are others but those are two I can think of right off the bat. Heather ale dates back to around 2000 BC according to archeological finds and is the same as beer except the hops have been replaced by the flowers and buds of the heather grass. Pine or Spruce ales were originally from Scandinavia but when Vikings invaded Scotland they introduced it to the area with the Shetland Islands being particularly well noted for the production of spruce and pine ales. Captain Cook always had quantities of Scots Pine Ale on his ship while sailing because the vitamin C in Spruce & Pine ales helps fight off scurvy.

Edit: I just looked it up and a Dutch brewer named Jopen makes "gruit beer" which is supposedly a hop free beer popular in the 14th-15th century which uses yarrow, rosemary, and sweet gale instead of hops. I'm going to have to see if I can find that one.

[Dinner]

Scots Pine Ale

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/80/243

Scots Heather Ale

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/80/245

The Google search also turned up Thisted Porse Guld which is a Danish beer brewed with Sweet Gale and Bog Myrtle though the brewery does use a slight amount of hops in their recipe.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/954/19411

[Drake Tungsten]

Why am I not surprised that Oerdin felt the need to answer a question that I already dealt with?

[Dinner]

You half assed it and I did it right, as always.

[Drake Tungsten]

I gave Dan the name of a delicious American microbrew without hops that you can buy at any store with a good beer selection. How is your recommendation of a ****ty Scottish pine beer better than that?