Baby Jesus + Anti-Abortion = No Go

[Asher]

I know... but it's still funny reading about how the manger is fine, but the plaque if toast. I'm so used to reading here about how more and more municipalities are bowing down to a very small minority that has made it their mission in life to remove all mangers from every city.

We just don't care in Canada. Realistically a manger scene hurts no one.

But as KH said, using that to spread a political message crosses the line. If it was private property, of course there'd be no issue.

Pretty sure this is the first sensible thing Toronto has done all year.

[KrazyHorse]

I know... but it's still funny reading about how the manger is fine, but the plaque if toast. I'm so used to reading here about how more and more municipalities are bowing down to a very small minority that has made it their mission in life to remove all mangers from every city.

Ming, it's a two way street. Pols in the US LOVE demonstrating how religious they are, reference God constantly in speeches etc.

Pols in Canada don't.

I'm fine with a manger outside city hall if it means that I don't have to listen to my MP talking about how he prayed to God for guidance in deciding how to vote.

[rah]

I think we can all agree that Canada handles these types of issues better. Maybe if we gave you Mississippi you too could be dragged down into that type of crap.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yep. Hell, when the drought in Georgia hit 2 years, the Governor literally had a public prayer for rain. I have no problems with praying for rain, but doing it in public was just really to show how religious he was. Makes some people, who may not have the same religious leanings, feel like outcasts.

[MikeH]

The UK is pretty much the same as Canada on this.

Mind you the UK doesn't have religious nuts/anti-abortion nuts anywhere near as badly as the US in the first place. I guess canada is the same.

[Ming]

Ming, it's a two way street. Pols in the US LOVE demonstrating how religious they are, reference God constantly in speeches etc.

True enough... when the pols need god, they use it. When it's better to claim church and state, they do it. Typical Pols

I'm fine with a manger outside city hall if it means that I don't have to listen to my MP talking about how he prayed to God for guidance in deciding how to vote.

I wish we were so lucky.

[KrazyHorse]

I think we can all agree that Canada handles these types of issues better. Maybe if we gave you Mississippi you too could be dragged down into that type of crap.

It's not just Mississippi. Outside of a very few major cities people are a hell of a lot more religious in the US.

I don't think our compromise on religion and state would work in the US. Unfortunately, you're just going to have to keep dealing with god-bothering pols and anti-nativity lawsuits

[Boris Godunov]

I'm fine with a manger outside city hall

Me, too, as long as other religious groups (and non-religious) get the same opportunity, of course.

[Asher]

Gays frequently litter public places with condoms, and no one complains.

[Boris Godunov]

I'd like to put up a lifesized model of the last supper where Jesus and the disciples are depicted as obviously, flamingly homo.

[Jon Miller]

Me, too, as long as other religious groups (and non-religious) get the same opportunity, of course.

Do they have a reason to put things up at Christmas? I mean, during the Feast of Lights, Christians don't (and shouldn't) have anything to put up. A manger or Cross wouldn't be appropriate.

What other religious/etc holidays are based about Dec 25? I mean, you can't just make something up...

Wiki suggests the following are appropriate:
# Christmas Day Christian Feast Day to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.
# (Re) birth of Sol Invictus. The winter solstice feast in the Roman Empire from 274 to 391
# Quaid-e-Azam's Day – Pakistan
# Constitution Day – Republic of China now based in Taiwan
# The feast day of Anastasia of Sirmium
# Yule
# Malkh-Festival. Sun festival in pre-Islamic pagan religion of Nakh people. Chechenya and Ingushetia

In western civilisation, it would be Yule or Christmas... really.

JM

[Jon Miller]

I'd like to put up a lifesized model of the last supper where Jesus and the disciples are depicted as obviously, flamingly homo.

In a gay Christian community this would be appropriate.

Not in the general community.

I think that gay pride month in June. Would probably be the time to put up gay oriented features (although it is a bit silly to compare being gay to being religious or something, more sense to compare it to being straight...).

JM

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well, it'd be based on December, wouldn't it? Because mangers just don't go up on the 25th. So Hanukkah stuff and if Ramadan is that month (it wasn't this year) and Kwanzaa stuff, etc.

[Asher]

They don't need to put it up around Xmas. I think he means in general. There are holidays on days other than Christmas, you know.

[Lorizael]

Sol Invictus wins for coolest sounding holiday.