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  • #31
    I don't believe you can teach people and communication skills.

    I certainly didn't take the course on it and I'm all kinds of awesome with both. In my lifetime I've got a 66.7% success rating with interviews. I've only ever had 6 real interviews in my life, and I got 4 of those jobs. I was also a smooth-talking consultant for a few years and a year after starting at that firm I became a team-lead of a 5-man team, and everyone there had worked longer than I had.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #32
      Hate to tell you this, rah, but I can and do turn on the charm in a professional setting.

      Poly is my vacation.
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
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      • #33
        I have a 100% success rate for interviews.

        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • #34
          I don't believe you can teach people and communication skills.

          I certainly didn't take the course on it and I'm all kinds of awesome with both
          Monkey!!!

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          • #35
            Also, again at the thought that rah needed to spend 4 years writing BS essays in order to learn how to interact with people.

            I learned to do that by drinking and hanging out at parties.

            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Japher View Post
              You laugh because it is amusing, but you should see me in a corporate setting.

              It's like me on Poly in terms of my speed and wit, but instead of venomous insults it's a smile and a pat on the back. Simple formula, massive success.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #37
                Perhaps the reason you (in general) have a high success rate in interviewing for a job is that you are targeting jobs below your worth?

                Just a thought.

                Maybe it's not the best indicator.
                Monkey!!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                  I have a 100% success rate for interviews.

                  One of the jobs I didn't get was my 1st year uni summer job for sales at CompuSmart. They asked me to explain the difference between two systems: Pentium 4 system and an Athlon system. The P4 system was significantly more expensive but not any faster. I mentioned that, because I refuse to lie to sell systems when I don't even get commission, and I don't think they liked it.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #39
                    I'm sure you are better in a professional setting or you wouldn't have one.

                    I was chosen to manage because of my skills in those areas.
                    I'm not going to heavily defend a poli-sci degree since I was just taking it thinking I was going the law school route. But a general degree can help some with their people skills so they're not as totally worthless as you and Asher preach. For some, like myself, it probably helped my career.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Japher View Post
                      Perhaps the reason you (in general) have a high success rate in interviewing for a job is that you are targeting jobs below your worth?

                      Just a thought.

                      Maybe it's not the best indicator.
                      I really, really don't think so. I certainly make more money than all of my contemporaries and have more responsibilities.

                      They're just not used to geeks who know their **** and can talk.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #41
                        I had to explain polygonal search and some basic linear algebra and geometry to a bunch of French-Canadian Liberal Arts majors in a meeting yesterday, AND I DIDN'T EVEN THROW ONE INSULT.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                          Also, again at the thought that rah needed to spend 4 years writing BS essays in order to learn how to interact with people.

                          I learned to do that by drinking and hanging out at parties.

                          I've already claimed that I demonstrated those skills prior, I was just pointing out that a more general education allows you to hone those skills a bit. I'd also bet that you have problems hiding your arrogance even in professional settings.
                          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                          • #43
                            One of them tried to argue with me that it's really difficult to determine whether a point is within a defined circle on a grid. He was talking about Pi and **** like it was a big deal.

                            10 minutes to explain that all I need to do is calculate the distance from the centroid and compare it to the radius. RESTRAINT. No insults, even though he was a Frog.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #44
                              Are you sure that wasn't just a nightmare you had?
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by rah View Post
                                I've already claimed that I demonstrated those skills prior, I was just pointing out that a more general education allows you to hone those skills a bit. I'd also bet that you have problems hiding your arrogance even in professional settings.
                                Nope. It helps that I ham it up a bit here.

                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
                                Ultima Ratio Regum

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