I find it harder and harder to take poly drama seriously

[PLATO]

"Calculus of functions in two or more dimensions. Includes solid analytic geometry, partial differentiation, multiple integration, and selected topics in vector calculus"

[loinburger]

2nd year calculus? Who the hell takes longer than a year to learn calculus?

My high school offered year-long courses in Real Calculus (differentiation and integration) and Fake Calculus (differentiation, aka Business Calculus), the latter was for people who didn't want to run the risk of hurting their GPA.

[Lorizael]

Seriously.

The knowledge that I can now buy and sell you all hundreds of times over makes this place seem like my little ant farm.

Cool. Mind paying off my credit card debt?

[Fve Crathva]

I took a dumbed-down second year calculus course for computer science students, which covered some vector calculus and ghetto DEs. I had to do the full second-year multivariable and DE courses in 4th year as prerequisites for engineering, which was good.

SP

[KrazyHorse]

"Calculus of functions in two or more dimensions. Includes solid analytic geometry, partial differentiation, multiple integration, and selected topics in vector calculus"

Urg. Up to there should be covered in 2.5 semesters, and no more.

Multi-variate calc is a joke. Can be taught in less than a week. Vector cal is more serious, and should also include Lagrange multipliers and perhaps some intro to calculus of variations.

That should cover 3 full semesters, followed by a semester of complex analysis. After that, there should be a full year of diffeq, starting with ODEs, integral transforms etc, followed by PDEs, integral equations, series sol'ns, Green's functions/fundamental solutions (this is assuming the student has already learned a decent amount of linear algebra)

After that, the only thing left is numerical methods. Finite differencing, Monte Carlo, the suitability and optimization of these techniques under various conditions.

That pretty much covers all the math an undergrad will ever need to know, and some of what a grad student might need. Specialized or abstract math classes might or might not be required depending on the area of research interest.

[PLATO]

Urg. Up to there should be covered in 2.5 semesters, and no more.

Multi-variate calc is a joke. Can be taught in less than a week. Vector cal is more serious, and should also include Lagrange multipliers and perhaps some intro to calculus of variations.

That should cover 3 full semesters, followed by a semester of complex analysis. After that, there should be a full year of diffeq, starting with ODEs, integral transforms etc, followed by PDEs, integral equations, series sol'ns, Green's functions/fundamental solutions (this is assuming the student has already learned a decent amount of linear algebra)

After that, the only thing left is numerical methods. Finite differencing, Monte Carlo, the suitability and optimization of these techniques under various conditions.

That pretty much covers all the math an undergrad will ever need to know, and some of what a grad student might need. Specialized or abstract math classes might or might not be required depending on the area of research interest.

You know...I blame you for this. He wanted to be an engineer before he started reading your posts! Now I have to pay for how many years of grad school? Thanks

[KrazyHorse]

2 years to get to vector cal means that PDEs might be taken after E&M, which is possible but definitely not ideal.

[KrazyHorse]

You don't have to pay for grad school. They pay for him.

[KrazyHorse]

Physicists get paid more than any other type of PhD except PhD finance...

[KrazyHorse]

The diffeq year should include, of course, a thorough grounding in special functions. Introduce in the context of ODEs, flesh out in the context of PDEs.

[PLATO]

Next semester is "Course emphasizing solution techniques. Includes first-order equations and applications, theory of linear equations, equations with constant coefficients, Laplace transforms, and series solutions"

So far he is agreeing with you. He says it is easy stuff.

I was thinking this was monumentally complex, but I guess I am only proving my ignorance.

BTW, he is wanting go on some summer thing to CERN in between his JR and SR years...there is a professor that is taking a group every summer. I assume that is a trip that would be well worth taking?

[PLATO]

You don't have to pay for grad school. They pay for him.

Awesome!!!! That is the best news I have heard in ages!

[PLATO]

Physicists get paid more than any other type of PhD except PhD finance...

Somebody has to take care of me when I get old.

[KrazyHorse]

I have no idea about the summer thing. Be more descriptive. Is it a show-and-tell trip, or do they get their feet wet with research?

[PLATO]

I have no idea about the summer thing. Be more descriptive. Is it a show-and-tell trip, or do they get their feet wet with research?

Partial quote on what they are doing:

"We prepare software for the commissioning of particle detectors and perform data analysis and simulations of particle reactions here at UTK and at CERN. There are opportunities to visit the laboratory and help get the experiment started during the summer break and to participate in student activities and lectures. Several introductory projects that get you started are available."