My Lai Tip of the Iceberg

[Kuciwalker]

We live in a real world with real evil.

Yes, like Captain Medina.

[loinburger]

Ok so Solom lets have a scenario, we all know i love these....

You are handed a gun, you are told that of 2 strangers in a hut in front of you 1 of them must die. If they don't die millions of Americans will die. If you don't kill one of them then you know you will be responsible for millions of people's deaths. What do you do? Do you say no and end America? Do you kill yourself, in turn America as well? Do you kill a stranger who's life depends on millions? What do you do?

I know, never happen scenario right? Kind of. Every day there are operations going on somewhere in the world that save lives. I don't want to know about them, I don't want to know WHO is doing the killing. All I want to know is that my government is doing everything it can to ensure millions of innocent lives are not extinguished because some liberal wanted to make sure that these operations don't hurt anyone. We live in a real world with real evil. Safely tucked away in your home in the states, far from any war, far from ever being shot at in anger you have never first hand, in front of you seen how evil man can be. I have seen blind faith lead people to blow themselves to pieces just to injure a dozen. I have seen complete rage save a single life at the expense of the enemies lives. Remember that word, ENEMY. Not friend. Not colleague. Not ally. ENEMY.

Terrorists are first and foremost our enemies. They have a resolve, death to all infidels. That is it. So unless you are a devote Muslim who is willing to accept their resolve you should be, at the least, understanding that things happen to save lives.

You are trying to skew this into your own personal want and need to know everything that goes on. You personally want to know, then go be the one saving lives. You want to have a country to raise a family in, a population to live in that country, and a population free from fear of imminent death from some foreign enemy then understand that there are things that need to happen.....

and remember this, evil men triumph when good man do nothing. And sometimes good men must do evil things to triumph over evil men.


And Stray, perfect example of a good man doing an evil thing for the greater good.

Wutang look at me nobody can criticize a thing I say because they're all liberal or civilians or stupid or gay or black or hispanic or female etc. it sure is awesome to masturbate to violent torture fantasies.

[Solomwi]

Wutang is for the children!

[KrazyHorse]

Ok so Solom lets have a scenario, we all know i love these....

You are handed a gun, you are told that of 2 strangers in a hut in front of you 1 of them must die. If they don't die millions of Americans will die. If you don't kill one of them then you know you will be responsible for millions of people's deaths. What do you do? Do you say no and end America? Do you kill yourself, in turn America as well? Do you kill a stranger who's life depends on millions? What do you do?

I know, never happen scenario right? Kind of. Every day there are operations going on somewhere in the world that save lives. I don't want to know about them, I don't want to know WHO is doing the killing. All I want to know is that my government is doing everything it can to ensure millions of innocent lives are not extinguished because some liberal wanted to make sure that these operations don't hurt anyone. We live in a real world with real evil. Safely tucked away in your home in the states, far from any war, far from ever being shot at in anger you have never first hand, in front of you seen how evil man can be. I have seen blind faith lead people to blow themselves to pieces just to injure a dozen. I have seen complete rage save a single life at the expense of the enemies lives. Remember that word, ENEMY. Not friend. Not colleague. Not ally. ENEMY.

Terrorists are first and foremost our enemies. They have a resolve, death to all infidels. That is it. So unless you are a devote Muslim who is willing to accept their resolve you should be, at the least, understanding that things happen to save lives.

You are trying to skew this into your own personal want and need to know everything that goes on. You personally want to know, then go be the one saving lives. You want to have a country to raise a family in, a population to live in that country, and a population free from fear of imminent death from some foreign enemy then understand that there are things that need to happen.....

and remember this, evil men triumph when good man do nothing. And sometimes good men must do evil things to triumph over evil men.


And Stray, perfect example of a good man doing an evil thing for the greater good.

It would be better if the gun was a button, and instead of saving millions of Americans from dying you would instead get a large sum of money.

[Solomwi]

Ok so Solom lets have a scenario, we all know i love these....

You are handed a gun, you are told that of 2 strangers in a hut in front of you 1 of them must die. If they don't die millions of Americans will die. If you don't kill one of them then you know you will be responsible for millions of people's deaths. What do you do? Do you say no and end America? Do you kill yourself, in turn America as well? Do you kill a stranger who's life depends on millions? What do you do?

I know, never happen scenario right? Kind of. Every day there are operations going on somewhere in the world that save lives. I don't want to know about them, I don't want to know WHO is doing the killing. All I want to know is that my government is doing everything it can to ensure millions of innocent lives are not extinguished because some liberal wanted to make sure that these operations don't hurt anyone. We live in a real world with real evil. Safely tucked away in your home in the states, far from any war, far from ever being shot at in anger you have never first hand, in front of you seen how evil man can be. I have seen blind faith lead people to blow themselves to pieces just to injure a dozen. I have seen complete rage save a single life at the expense of the enemies lives. Remember that word, ENEMY. Not friend. Not colleague. Not ally. ENEMY.

Terrorists are first and foremost our enemies. They have a resolve, death to all infidels. That is it. So unless you are a devote Muslim who is willing to accept their resolve you should be, at the least, understanding that things happen to save lives.

You are trying to skew this into your own personal want and need to know everything that goes on. You personally want to know, then go be the one saving lives. You want to have a country to raise a family in, a population to live in that country, and a population free from fear of imminent death from some foreign enemy then understand that there are things that need to happen.....

and remember this, evil men triumph when good man do nothing. And sometimes good men must do evil things to triumph over evil men.


And Stray, perfect example of a good man doing an evil thing for the greater good.

Why would I be responsible for millions of deaths? I didn't set up whatever is going to kill them. Why don't you hold the people who, I don't know, actually killed them responsible, you touchy-feely pinko pansy?

Sorry, but I won't be intimidated into letting you cut open the bellies of pregnant women in my name by your laughable and pathetic reassurances that "things need to happen" and vague descriptions of what you've seen. How were the C-beams at the Tannhauser Gate? Guess what, zakudl: I neither want nor need you on that wall. When the Mongol hordes come try to take away my Swedish penis pump and Toby Keith CD collection, I may reconsider. Until then, you just keep accepting your pay from me and the millions of other Americans your superiors answer to and spare me the victim bull****. You get paid for your job. The low level hero worship isn't an obligation.

[Solomwi]

It would be better if the gun was a button, and instead of saving millions of Americans from dying you would instead get a large sum of money.

Yeah, now that I'd do in an instant. But most Americans are *******s, and I don't want to sully my conscience just to save a bunch of *******s.

[Solomwi]

Oh, and one thing I left out, zakudl: I'm not arrogant enough to believe that being my enemy makes someone any less worthy to live.

[Ming]

It seems like every time I read one of zakubandit's rants.. I can't help but remember an old movie

[Solomwi]

It seems like every time I read one of zakubandit's rants.. I can't help but remember an old movie

Hence the oh, so subtle reference in one of my posts above.

[Riesstiu IV]

I'm not even sure why you would bother with legitimate responses to Zakuassbandit's posts. They're a little too obvious as trolls.

[Solomwi]

I'm not even sure why you would bother with legitimate responses to Zakuassbandit's posts. They're a little too obvious as trolls.

If you mean mine, I'm more trying to keep him going than anything.

[zakubandit]

Solom, the day comes that you NEED help because of those carebears you don't see worthy of being killed in combat they encourage to continue, your going to find a different person standing at the end of the gun. Not exactly how you imagine it, but I can bet you that if that time ever comes it will be a person you don't care exists and didn't pay enough (lack of a better word) respect to for what he/she did.


I could care less of all of your opinions about me. Call me crazy, fu.ck it I told the psych that myself in a psych eval a few months ago...but I actually passed that eval just fine and the doc recommended i take psychology in school (screw that, i don't care to know people any better than i already do). But Solom this is something you won't trully understand coming from someone elses mouth (or don't care to even try to understand coming from me specifically)

When you are told that you are being uprooted and going to war the world changes for you. It is different in everyone, for me it was imminent fear of death mixed with "this is what I was trained to do" excitement. When we got hit by an IED the first time it was like being transported onto an alien world. I knew what to do, I was already ready to go, and I reacted how I was trained to react. You get into a mindset that is all actions and thought is mixed into the adrenaline so you don't actually think because it is all processed (you won't understand this unless you have been shot at, you are thinking but actions and thought at merged in a way). The first time I saw a friend get hit it was just like a movie, no sound, no motion, just my friend, a guy I had known for about a year, body falling over and then crimson red and dirt. He lived, just got hit in the leg, not a bad wound actually, but it was still the first time I was in that kind of sh.it. Now did I feel I the enemy needed to die? At that moment yes, because they felt I didn't deserve to live. The enemy sees it that way, and do not try to misconstrue this because past actions are more than enough fact for this statement, our enemy wants us dead, rotting, birds eating our corpses. They don't want to maim us, to scratch us, to hurt our feelings. They want us dead. Now when you are being shot at by a person who you know will not hesitate to shoot you if you hesitate to shoot them you stop thinking about should I kill or just hurt him. When you got bullets flying and RPGs flying (not the intense intense combat in movies) you do not consider "shoot in the knees". I didn't consider them as anything more than a target. Call it brainwashed...but like I said, you won't understand until you have personally lived it.

[Riesstiu IV]

Your such a Goddamn liar. Go back to playing FPS games and jacking off to your vile war fantasies.

[zakubandit]

Really Rie? Were you in my platoon?

[loinburger]

You're a parody of yourself.