Proof for an Intelligent and Perfect Creator

[KrazyHorse]

Current ivory tower theroy is "big bang".

No.

[BlackCat]

Well, then please tell what is

[loinburger]

1. The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.
2. The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
3. The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
4. The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
5. Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
6. Therefore, God does not exist.

[SlowwHand]

KH is full of crap, constantly. He disagrees with everything, thus has no stake in anything.

[Raijer]

1. The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.
2. The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
3. The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
4. The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
5. Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
6. Therefore, God does not exist.

Excellent.

[Space05us]

KH is full of crap, constantly. He disagrees with everything, thus has no stake in anything.

You are implying it is better to agree with anything simply to have a stake in something.

[KrazyHorse]

Well, then please tell what is

In backwards order of time, the history of the Universe:

Dark energy dominated/accelerating universe (today). What the hell is dark energy anyway?
Matter dominated Universe; formation of structure e.g. galaxies etc. Dark matter? We have reasonable explanations for what that could be, but no evidence of it in the lab.
Formation of stars/reionization
Recombination/cosmic microwave background THIS IS THE LAST THING WE CAN SEE; EVERYTHING ELSE IS IMPUTED FROM KNOWLEDGE OF PHYSICS
Radiation dominated Universe; plasma
Nucleosynthesis
Photon gas
Lepton soup
Baryonic plasma
Quark-gluon plasma
Baryogenesis, leptogenesis (this is the first early Universe thing we don't understand very well! How come the Universe has more matter than antimatter?)
Reheating (??? does this happen before or after baryogenesis? maybe it's the cause of it?) where the energy of the inflatonic field (????) gets dumped into the more usual, standard model fields
The inflationary epoch (? we know it happened, but we don't know much about it; can put some limits on its beginning and its end, but not very strong ones. Don't know what caused it)
High energy stuff we don't know much about. EWSB probably happens here. Does the Universe make it up to the Planck scale? What happens there? No data, no real theories.

As you can see, there's no "beginning" of the Universe to point to.

[DaShi]

So bascially, we're living in the dark times of the universe.

[Guynemer]

[metalhead]

So bascially, we're living in the dark times of the universe.

I'll have to remember to tell my girlfriend this when she refuses to give me anal.

[Guaymiester Schwengel]

The fact that the Creator is perfect implies that He isn’t self-contradictory. Therefore any religion, and all religions contradicts each other (otherwise they would be identical), that contradicts Torah is the antithesis to the Creator.

I don't get it.

[bumfister]

You have to be able to speak ****** to understand it.

[MRT144]

Asher is proof enough.

[Combat Ingrid]

God is a dickgirl.

[loinburger]

He doesn't allow comments on his blog, now how am I supposed to ask him to explain the god - dickgirl connection???