ACORN: Housing Assistance For Prostitutes

[Dr Strangelove]

You know, if you look at those two O'Keefe and Giles, you wonder how the ACORN employees managed to keep a straight face while talking to them.

[Asher]

So whats the problem?

What's the problem with eliminating government funding to the companies that produce the machines and weapons you use for your military?

[Darius871]

What's the problem with eliminating government funding to the companies that produce the machines and weapons you use for your military?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one could make a principled distinction between "funding" an organization and making payments to it as consideration for personalty pursuant to a contract. I'm not aware of any major defense contractors being subsidized by the government outright, but to the extent that they are, they shouldn't be anyway with or without this bill.

Was the stimulus money supposed to support ACORN, or to purchase something from it?

[Krill]

I thought it was supposed to pay for the prostitutes for the feds?

[Arrian]

Grayson

Not that it will go anyway, but good effort on his part.

-Arrian

[Theben]

This is why I wanted the video responses and follow-up from ACORN's side. The real actions displayed by the employees.

Mighty oaks of umbrage
Posted: September 23, 2009


Let's not kid ourselves.

ACORN has not made enemies because it is running a prostitution ring.
ACORN did not become a prime-time guerrilla TV target because of vote fraud.
ACORN did not take both barrels from Congress because it's been ripping off taxpayers.

None of those rightwing raps has any substantiation beyond isolated instances, always open to dispute, always politically motivated and always prompting remedial action by the organization itself.

So why has ACORN been cast, by the reactionary media and its allied legislators, prosecutors and election officials, as a juggernaut of evil?

Because of the good it does.

That's where the scale is.

Not a YouTube moment, but thousands of working-class homeowners helped in preventing foreclosure.

Not a nasty little John McCain sound bite, but battles against predatory lending, coast to coast.

Not a fistful of voter registration cards signed by Mickey Mouse (ACORN flags the inevitable bogus ones for the authorities), but more than a million new registered voters.

Yes, they vote for Democrats. They're poor, man! Yo.

Let us stipulate: If ACORN were not succeeding at its day job, the forces of righteousness would not know it existed.

The organization announced sweeping disciplinary and self-evaluation steps after the made-for-Fox ambush tape, even as it accused the authors of creative editing and their accomplices of conduit journalism. An employee at the center of the silliness says she was playing along with the preposterous imposters, who were booted from other ACORN offices. Nobody did paperwork for the clowns.

Contrition and doubt didn't stop righteous lawmakers from cutting off the funding ACORN was getting for such subversive mischief as registering voters and obtaining low-income loans.

They have to be laughing over their champagne over at Boeing and Blackwater.

This is not to suggest that ACORN is without flaws -- as its advisory board, which includes Henry Cisneros and Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, acknowledges. What nationally spread poor people's hell-raising army, dependent on low-paid staff and volunteers, could be pure as the driven snow? Heck, every movement has its Jimmy Swaggarts and Iran-Contras.

In 2008, I watched ACORN come under assault from Indiana's Republican secretary of state. The bombast blew itself out, as did other high-level shots across the bow of S.S. Blue State. Beating up on ACORN fit perfectly with their "reform" agenda, which pandered to folklore about inner-city politics while short-shrifting absentee ballots, a riper source of fraud and a favorite of GOP voters.

Just last week, the Indiana Court of Appeals called state government on just that bias. The governor reacted to the decision with a tantrum that would have made great YouTube fare.

I figured most of the employees decided these 2 were misfits that didn't need to be taken seriously or have had enough experience to know not to **** with a pimp in their presence. Tell them what they want to hear and get them out.

[Drake Tungsten]

Why not just tell them to get out?

[Theben]

Maybe they dealt with enough of these characters to know better?

BOSTON - Friends and family are remembering a pregnant teenager killed during her own birthday party.

Last night, dozens gathered at the Dorchester apartment of Paola Castillo. She was killed early Sunday morning while celebrating her 18th birthday at a friend's Hyde Park apartment.

Witnesses say Castillo made a comment out a second-story window to a group of people who had been kicked out of the party. That's when someone pulled out a gun and started shooting.

The gunman still remains on the loose.

Police have identified people they want to question in connection with the murder.

[Drake Tungsten]

If they had "known better", they would've kicked them out; letting them stay caused nothing but trouble. Stop being an idiot.

[Theben]

I see you've never dealt with the bottom-rung dwellers of society. Just to educate you, sometimes they get pissy over the smallest infraction against what they deem important.

Now you are smarter. Go and be blessed.

[Darius871]

I see you've never dealt with the bottom-rung dwellers of society. Just to educate you, sometimes they get pissy over the smallest infraction against what they deem important.

Oh come on, have you seen what a scrawny wimp this O'Keefe is? Even the kids screeching in the background could have taken him down if he'd have started sh*t. Nobody's going to buy that these two kooks were "intimidating."

Anyway, that article only talks about one of the over half-dozen employees caught on tape - why won't they or their bosses get on the record about "playing along" too? It would seem the smart thing to say, true or not.


Edit: if the anonymous employee referenced in that article is the crack whore in San Bernadino, that's old news:

[Theben]

Oh come on, have you seen what a scrawny wimp this O'Keefe is? Even the kids screeching in the background could have taken him down if he'd have started sh*t. Nobody's going to buy that these two kooks were "intimidating."

Which leads into my other point that they didn't take them seriously.

[Drake Tungsten]

Again, if you don't think they're serious, why would you even talk to them? Seriously, you can't be this big of an idiot.

[Kuciwalker]

This is not to suggest that ACORN is without flaws -- as its advisory board, which includes Henry Cisneros and Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, acknowledges. What nationally spread poor people's hell-raising army, dependent on low-paid staff and volunteers, could be pure as the driven snow? Heck, every movement has its Jimmy Swaggarts and Iran-Contras.

I love how they flatter themselves to think they are anywhere near as big a deal as Iran-Contra

[Theben]

You need to work on your creativity. '**** and idiot just don't cut it anymore.

FWIW, what I'm saying are possibilities. I've dealt with enough people that the whole spectrum of lunacy is believable.

****.