Is short man the guy that wears shorts?
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yes. he wears short shorts.I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
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Originally posted by Lorizael View PostI am aware of no difference between a comma fault and a comma splice
a) a comma is used when there is no need of any punctuation
b) a comma is used in place of the proper punctuation
c) a comma is omitted
d) a comma is omitted in favour of some other punctuation
My quote employed a resumptive modifier, which is a perfectly valid use of the comma.
Hmm. Looking this up, it appears that you're right. However, I've noticed that all the examples of resumptive modifiers I've seen so far seem much more natural than your quote. I wonder why that is.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse View PostI suppose you could claim that the second part of the sentence is actually a parenthetical remark, and should therefore be preceded by a comma, but that seems awkward to me.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse View PostI would call it a "comma fault" whenever:
a) a comma is used when there is no need of any punctuation
b) a comma is used in place of the proper punctuation
c) a comma is omitted
d) a comma is omitted in favour of some other punctuation
My quote employed a resumptive modifier, which is a perfectly valid use of the comma.
Hmm. Looking this up, it appears that you're right. However, I've noticed that all the examples of resumptive modifiers I've seen so far seem much more natural than your quote. I wonder why that is.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld
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Lori, do you think that this:
The man stole my wallet, the short man.
is a grammatically, syntactically, etc. correct sentence?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio Regum
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I believe that both my quote and your example are technically correct, but they sound awkward because the resumptive modifier is applying to the subject of the sentence and not the object.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
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You guys, are, hilarious, KH and Lori.Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
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Let's get back on topic.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld
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It seems to me that there are all sorts of horrible phrases I can construct using the catchall of "resumptive modifier". This construction (which I've used quite often myself without thinking about it) appears to be a deliberate exception to syntactic rules in order to allow a certain variety of pleasant phraseology. Unfortunately, it's a general enough exception to also allow really ****ty sentences that rather obviously break the intuitive understanding I have of said rules.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Originally posted by Patroklos View PostMachiavelli had a good chapter on this.I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit View PostYou guys, are, hilarious, KH and Lori.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse View PostIt seems to me that there are all sorts of horrible phrases I can construct using the catchall of "resumptive modifier". This construction (which I've used quite often myself without thinking about it) appears to be a deliberate exception to syntactic rules in order to allow a certain variety of pleasant phraseology. Unfortunately, it's a general enough exception to also allow really ****ty sentences that rather obviously break the intuitive understanding I have of said rules.Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld
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I'm afraid I'm out of my depth at this point, Lori. Basically, it just feels wrong.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio Regum
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