Why do we need Israel?

[Sirotnikov]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

I doubt russia would want that now.

[Heraclitus]

True but is that worth a constant strain on relations with the Arab League?


Also isn't Turkey just as reliable?

[Sirotnikov]

ovens

tsk tsk tsk.

[Heraclitus]

I doubt russia would want that now.

Maybe if you offered to buy the land?


I mean they sold Alaska for what? A mega $?

[Sirotnikov]

True but is that worth a constant strain on relations with the Arab League?


Also isn't Turkey just as reliable?

Let me frame it this way: what possible benefits to you stand to gain from the arab league?

Oil? It is depletable, used as a political tool, and soon enough the world will move to alternative energies.


I'm not sure about turks. They're a possiblity though riskier than Israel. Iranians could also be a great ally once the grow over their mullahs in power stage. I think that any Islamic country is a weaker option for you, because they're more volatile, less predictable, and have a different culture and mindset.

I would expect christian arabs in Lebanon to be a viable option but they are too weak and too small in number.

[Sava]

On a serious note - Israel is a much more stable, predictable ally than any other option in this area.

since when?

stable? predictable?

I know each day that the sun is going to rise and set with the Saudis being a repressive regime that wants to get rich on oil money. They don't invade anybody, they don't occupy other people. They don't kill thousands of civilians on a whim. I can eat, sleep, and **** on the stability of the Saudis. They are stable and predictable. Evil, sure. But stable and predictable.

Now Israel? God only knows the next time they'll send tanks into Gaza or start some ****storm in Lebanon... or do God knows what else that will further piss off the Muslims.

[Sava]

tsk tsk tsk.

c'mon, you knew that was coming

[Sirotnikov]

Maybe if you offered to buy the land?
I mean they sold Alaska for what? A mega $?

I'll go consult my government.

[Heraclitus]

ovens

Isn't such a statement technically illegal in many countries?

[Sava]

the German government can suck my dick

[Sirotnikov]

since when?

stable? predictable?

I know each day that the sun is going to rise and set with the Saudis being a repressive regime that wants to get rich on oil money. They don't invade anybody, they don't occupy other people. They don't kill thousands of civilians on a whim. I can eat, sleep, and **** on the stability of the Saudis. They are stable and predictable. Evil, sure. But stable and predictable.

You are vastly under informed.
The house of Saud is weak. An over throw there is much more likely than an overthrow of the Israeli democracy.

Saudis have been for years not only excusing, but as a matter of policy financing the people who bombed you, provided them with ideological justification and indoctrination.

Now Israel? God only knows the next time they'll send tanks into Gaza or start some ****storm in Lebanon... or do God knows what else that will further piss off the Muslims.

If you think this is done without consulting the US, or in the context of a mutual understanding, you're similarly under informed about your own foreign policy.

Not to mention we're always very foreseeable - if we're attacked, we strike back hard. Your trouble is the nations that spurt random terrorist attacks, against Israel or against you.

[Sirotnikov]

the German government can suck my dick

are you sure you want it?

[Heraclitus]

the German government can suck my dick

This is completley unrealted but your avatar's hot, who's the girl?

[Sava]

I already said US foreign policy was not rational

plus, I don't give two ****s about the Saudis, I was just arguing for the hell of it

[Sava]

are you sure you want it?

after a few beers, I'd tit**** the hell out of those