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'Jacob's Law' aims to prevent child deaths in hot vehicles
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Originally posted by SlowwHand View PostActually, it's not just a day-care worker problem. Parents do it. Go in to shop, eat, drink or whatever. Pets and children. And no, it's not a Texas-specific problem."I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin
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Originally posted by Asher View PostHow can anyone accidentally leave a kid in the car?
Che, big government isn't the answer. The people who do this are stupid enough as is, fear of legal consequences won't change anything. As Zkrib already said, this is already illegal.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by chequita guevara View PostWay to completely ignore everything. People accidentally leave kids in the car by forgetting they have a kid in the car. In the case of day care workers, it happens because they are too busy focusing on corralling the other kids that they overlook one.
It is you that is ignoring this is already criminal."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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Originally posted by Asher View PostLegislating anything won't fix this. It's already a crime."I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin
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Originally posted by chequita guevara View PostYou know, it's easy to say only stupid people do this. But it's very easy for it to happen. We are overworked in this society, and often easily distracted, because of all the crap on our minds.
The problem with this law isn't that it was passed. The problem is, it doesn't go far enough. It should mandate practice, so that it becomes instinctive to check each seat every time workers exit the vehicle, so they don't even have to think about it, just like soldiers practice, practice, practice.
As for Zkrib's point about manslaughter, wtf? You think anyone leaves their kids in the car voluntarily. Okay, yes, it does happen occasionally, to some exceptionally ignorant people. The vast majority of the time, however, its accidental. Unfortunately, it only takes about 15 minutes for the car to become dangerously hot. Fifteen minutes is not very long to be distracted and make a mistake.To us, it is the BEAST.
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Originally posted by Asher View PostLegislating anything won't fix this. It's already a crime.
It is you that is ignoring this is already criminal.
Go back and reread what I originally wrote: mandating training for child care workers, not just a measly 2 hours.
I think the fact that it is criminal or not is irrelevant. The vast majority of the time this is done, it is because someone forgot the child is in the car, not because the person deliberately left the child in the car. Criminalizing it is pointless.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by Sava View PostMy parents never left me in the car... not a onceChristianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by SlowwHand View PostActually, it's not just a day-care worker problem. Parents do it. Go in to shop, eat, drink or whatever. Pets and children. And no, it's not a Texas-specific problem.
That's not addresed to you, Asher. I plan for a living, so I know it's coming.
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Redundant and possibly counterproductive legislation.
Originally posted by Dis View Poststop naming laws after children dammit!"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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Originally posted by Wezil View PostThe "Amber Alert" policy is under review here. Could be done away with.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Yeah, seriously. We had a recent child abduction/murder in which the Amber Alert policy came under serious criticism."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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The problem is the criteria required for issuing one. In the Stafford case (link) they weren't met.
Now there are calls from many to ease the requirements for issuing the alert. The problem with that of course is that you invite an endless stream of alerts issued whenever a kid is late coming home from school. The alerts will become meaningless.
The impetus to disband the official Amber Alert program (and roll it into official police protocol instead) would be to prevent future lambasting of police for doing what is asked of them."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain
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