How the Soviets Really Won WWII :)

[Main_Brain]

I You tell me what Germany had on the drawing board in 1942-1943, that had a reasonable chance of mass production by 1946, that could have countered the B-36.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserfall_(Rakete)

[Wezil]

You broke the thread Che

[BlackCat]

Don't understand this - he has been pretty reasonable.

[Wezil]

When he fixes what he broke I will consider him "reasonable".

[chequita guevara]

I'm not fixing it! You will love my pretty Buchon!

[BlackCat]

Oh, it's the pic - well it works fine on my 24"

[Wezil]

I'm not fixing it! You will love my pretty Buchon!

It's a lovely picture.

Now go resize it.

[BlackCat]

A question. Assuming that germany beats soviet stopping on top or just to the east of Ural, what would the japanese do ? If they feel that there was a chance to revenge their defeat in 39, they could get the idea to go north and take Vladivostok.

After removing the threat from leftovers from the soviet army, I assume that further japanese troops would be freed for operations elsewhere.

[Serb]

It just goes to show the Soviets where good at getting killed. But it should not be ignored that the Eastern Front was a huge affair arguably a greater drain on Germany than any fighting taking place in the west.

Get the same chart for the number of AXIS killed by Soviets and the rest of allies. 2/3 of Werhmacht was destroyed by Soviets. Nearly 2/3 of the Soviet loses were CIVILIANS.

****er.
Damn you. Assh*ole. ****ing western liers. Hate you ****ing revisionists. God damn liers.
Burn in hell.

[Serb]

Yeah, right. Do remind me, how many Soviet soldiers died at Stalingrad? For you, it was just something you could do without any real risk to your own infrastructure, hence you couldn't even be arsed taking part until half way through. And then you harp on about how you won the war, like it was you who came in and saved the day. You tipped the balance, sure, but saved the day. Don't make me laugh...it's this kind of arrogance that has made your country so despised

[BlackCat]

Holy sh!t - Serb !

[Serb]

Not so. The Nazis had a sizeable lead in developing the A-Bomb until Norweigian guerillas knocked out their supply of heavy water. A frustrated Hitler then cancelled the program. Anybody want to speculate how WW II would have come out of Hitler would have had The Bomb?

The Poles got us Ultra, so we spent the entire war reading top secrets of the Nazis. We used Ultra, among other things, to sink supplies and reinforcements heading for Rommel in North Africa. Without the Poles, we lose North Africa and the Suez Canal.

And God Bless our much overlooked Canadian neighbors. Their bloody Dieppe Raid earned us the lessons we needed to win at Normandy. Plus, Hitler sent all his Normandy reinforcements to battle the Canadians around Caen, which let Patton break out in the West with Operation Cobra. The U.S. may have gotten the victory at Normandy but much of it was paid for in Canadian blood.

You have no ****ing idea what kind of hell was on the eastern front and who the **** destroyed the bulk of the nazi war machine before you, you lazy butts, even first engaged a real nazis in Normandy in 1944. Five God damn years after the outbreak of war.
Winners, my ass.
Shut the f*ck up already.

[Patroklos]

A question. Assuming that germany beats soviet stopping on top or just to the east of Ural, what would the japanese do ? If they feel that there was a chance to revenge their defeat in 39, they could get the idea to go north and take Vladivostok.

I doubt it. The Japanese were quite busy in 41/42 and I doubt the were really looking for another fight. If Germany had defeated the Soviets, Germany being allied to Japan would pretty much prevent any Soviet aggression against Japan as they would not want to reignite hostilities with the Nazis at that point.

If I were Japan I would jsut remove most of my forces content that my Norhter neighbor just got its ass handed to it by my ally.

[Serb]

As I recall, the Brits got Ultra when they boarded a German U-Boat that wasn't sinking as fast as the commander had hoped. The U-110 gave up its enigma machine and code books. In fact, the Brits captured 13 such machines on different occasions, the Canadians one, and the Americans one (near the end of the war).

To those who claim the US didn't get into the war soon enough, it should be remembered the the United States was unofficially at war with Germany in early 1941. Aside from all the helpful war materials this country sent to Great Britain (planes, tanks, ships, volunteers, etc.) the U.S Navy was also involved in hunting and sinking U-boats, long before the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Damn right. It took Roosvelt to let his old battleships sunk at Perl Harbor to let the public opinion switch for yea to the war. Like USA had any choice after Hitler declared war on US after this?
Ass_savers, my ass.

[Serb]

After the Battle of Britain and El Alamein, yes.

Holy sh!t. Is that what they thaught you in school all that time?

****ing liers.