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The LCS-2 Independence finally got underway for sea trials last week. While I think it's a neat looking ship, I wouldn't want to serve on her.
Looks like she can turn on a dime.
Looks like she can turn on a dime.
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Why not?Originally posted by Lonestar View PostI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
It's probably nice to have the ability to make such turns when there are torpedoes, but how does she deal with "exocet"'s ? (replace exocet with newest such thingy).
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Originally posted by DanS View Post
With only a 40 man crew? You're talking 24hrs on/off for duty sections while inport in San Diego/Norfolk wherever.
I've also seen photos of LCS-1(which is a different class but same crew size) performing an UNREP with 28 Goddamn sailors out there pulling the hose across.
If the USN doesn't want sailors doing unspeakable things to detailers to avoid being sent to an LCS, they are going to have to increase the crew size.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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There's a RAM located aft for that. Not much in the way of air defense beyond that, but it is not meant to operate by itself in a hostile air environment(I know, I know, famous last words...).Originally posted by BlackCat View Post It's probably nice to have the ability to make such turns when there are torpedoes, but how does she deal with "exocet"'s ? (replace exocet with newest such thingy).Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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I wouldn't mind serving on it. But I am curious about how rough that ship is in heavy seas.
I imagine the crew size is thought out well ahead of time. I'm sure everything is automated not requiring "watches".Comment
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This kind of mindset is exactly why we need to get rid of manned military vehicles.Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
What a waste.
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Originally posted by Dis View Post
Yeah, but in port you still need to man force protection watches, which is what I'm concerned about.
I know you only worked on birdfarms with a zillion people on it, but small boys are different stories.
Asher, in fact the LCS concept is that it operates as a mothership for unmanned vehicles.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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Not far enough. The LCS itself needs to be operated by robots.Originally posted by Lonestar View Post
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If I understand it right, then it's supposed to make fast ground/sea shore attacks - I guess that it will do such on it's own since no other ships can follow. Either there is no enemy air defense or it has been defeated, so why the need for speed ?Originally posted by Lonestar View PostWith or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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According to Wikipedia:
Not very comforting for a warship, which you would expect to be shot at if it ever tries to perform its primary function...Because of the risk of fire on the all aluminum ship, smoking is not permitted on board.http://www.hardware-wiki.com - A wiki about computers, with focus on Linux support.Comment
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It could be a part of the building process, but don't worry - even if all the crew was smoking cuban cigars, there are no danger of it to catch fire.Originally posted by Thue View PostWith or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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no smoking
This isn't the only aluminum ship. Cruisers and frigates are aluminum above the main deck. And they allow smoking.
I mean seriously. WTF. Did they just pull this reason out of their ass? Smoking is normally only permissible on the sponson or fantail (depending on the ship). It's not like crews are lighting up inside (though some engineering types did smoke in the engine/fire rooms- shhh don't tell anyone).
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To get out of harm's way.(I'm serious)Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
It's suppose to be a cheap(ish) way of providing sea control assets for the USN. The idea being that it swaps out "modules" and a "mission crew" for whatever the mission is at hand. If it's suppose to do ASW stuff, it goes into port and loads a ASW module and mission crew. If it's suppose to to anti-surface stuff, it loads that instead.
Really, the driving factor I think is that the USN decided we don't need $2bil Destroyers w/350+crew chasing pirates around.
Thue, yup, and no repair lockers are manned when general quarters is called on ship. The hope is that the automated damage control systems work their magic.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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No, it's so stealthy that the fire would come from enemy guns if anyone lit up on board and gave their position away.Comment
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