Who Will The Democrats Select In 2012?

[SlowwHand]

I mean, it's aleready obvious that Obama is a 1 term president. So who will be up?

For that matter, who will the Republicans nominate?

[Drake Tungsten]

Obama will win in 2012.

[SlowwHand]

[Drake Tungsten]

You're so blind, Tex.

[BeBMan]

Why would you need another president now that you have the ONE?

[Zkribbler]

So true. Bush and the Repugs so crashed the economy, anything Obama does will seem like absolute genius in comparison. And if he makes any progress in areas which Bush ignored -- like the cost of health care or the Middle East problem -- then he'll be a shoe in.

Besides, who are the Repugs going to put up against him? Palin?? Romney???

[Rufus T. Firefly]

So true. Bush and the Repugs so crashed the economy, anything Obama does will seem like absolute genius in comparison. And if he makes any progress in areas which Bush ignored -- like the cost of health care or the Middle East problem -- then he'll be a shoe in.

Besides, who are the Repugs going to put up against him? Palin?? Romney???

QFT. This isn't 1977, it's 1933 -- the GOP has left such a complete mess behind that the President only needs to seem like he's trying to be re-elected decisively, especially since the GOP has driven their own brand into the ground. Obama's probably going to campaign on 4 things in 2012: the stock market's back up, the unemployment rate's back down, our troops are mostly out of Iraq, and we have health care reform; throw in credit card reform, "success" in Afghanistan (he'll move the goal posts to define it, but that's politics), and a possibly re-privatized, now-viable GM (or "GM"), and his re-election won't be of FDR-Landon proportions, but it will be a blowout.

[RGBVideo]

Obama's probably going to campaign on 4 things in 2012: the stock market's back up, the unemployment rate's back down, our troops are mostly out of Iraq, and we have health care reform; throw in credit card reform, "success" in Afghanistan (he'll move the goal posts to define it, but that's politics), and a possibly re-privatized, now-viable GM (or "GM")

Let's remember these predictions.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Let's remember these predictions.

Ok, but let's be clear about what they are: I'm predicting that they are what he'll campaign on, not necessarily what will be true. I do think the market will be higher than where it was when Obama took office. Unemployment's the one I'm least sure of, and it'd be tough, but not impossible, for teh White House to fudge the facts to suit their campaign. As for Iraq, whatever happens there will be spun as bringing the troops home; similarly, whatever happens with health care will be spun as major reform.

I'm not a huge fan of Obama the president at the moment (though, with a 63% approval rate, others clearly are); but Obama the politician is sitting pretty, for now -- especially since the GOP doesn't have another Reagan waiting in the wings (but they have plenty of Alf Landons).

[Elok]

Besides, who are the Repugs going to put up against him? Palin?? Romney???

The TV at work the other day was tuned to CNN (I think); I saw it invoke the possibility of a "Cheney-Limbaugh candidacy." I quite literally laughed out loud.

Anyway, yes, at this rate Obama will certainly be around in 2012, assuming none of the stormfront wackos get lucky.

[DinoDoc]

Ok, but let's be clear about what they are: I'm predicting that they are what he'll campaign on, not necessarily what will be true. I do think the market will be higher than where it was when Obama took office. Unemployment's the one I'm least sure of, and it'd be tough, but not impossible, for teh White House to fudge the facts to suit their campaign. As for Iraq, whatever happens there will be spun as bringing the troops home; similarly, whatever happens with health care will be spun as major reform.

And the viable GM and Chrysler?

[Arrian]

I think he'll be relected. However, even if he isn't, it's hard to imagine him not being the Dem nominee.

-Arrian

[rah]

Unless terrorists nuke New York in the next four years, I figure the Odds of him not being their nominee are less than 1%.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You're so blind, Tex.

Seriously. As of right now it is hard to say that Obama will fall in 2012. And not only that, the chances of him not being re-nominated?! WTF... it's been over 100 years (maybe 150 - I forget who exactly it was) since a party didn't renominate their President when he wanted to run for a 2nd term.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

And the viable GM and Chrysler?

I'm not predicting that. I'm just saying that, if it happens, he'll run on it; if it doesn't, it won't hurt him.

And not only that, the chances of him not being re-nominated?! WTF... it's been over 100 years (maybe 150 - I forget who exactly it was) since a party didn't renominate their President when he wanted to run for a 2nd term.

IIRC, it was Chester Alan Arthur (a really underrated president, actually), whom the GOP failed to renominate in 1884. Since then,Theodore Roosevelt, Coolidge and LBJ all refused to run for a second full term, but Arthur's the last prez who failed to get renominated by his party. [/presidential trivia geek]