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  • #16
    The consensus seems to be that we have too much on our plate. This is not surprising. Her and I are going to sit down tomorrow and figure out how much we can really do with the time we have available.
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    • #17
      Plan more than one trip to cover all these sites with at least two days at every non-urban site. (If you like to hike, then 3 days for the big parks.) Allow for realistic travel time between sites w/1 hour for each 50 miles. This allows for setup and teardown at destinations and for meals and light diversions along the way. Pick one for this year, and go on others if things develop that way. Plan to enjoy these trips!
      No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
      "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
        If I were thee, I'd stop by and see the St. Louis Arch. It's an architectural wonder, and I'm sure will one day be a Wonder of the World in a later edition of Civ.

        I second this. I LOVE the Arch. Absolutely worth seeing.
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        • #19
          You should plan your trip thru Pennsylvania & stop at Kecksburg...the sight of the famous 1965 UFO crash landing. There really isn't anything to see, except woods, but you can get one of our World Famous Isaly's chipped ham sandwiches while you're here

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          • #20
            If you drive to Utah just to see the great salt lake, count on major disappointment. It reeks.
            If you there, go to the mountains just east of SLC. I wouldn't even do that though.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
              If you drive to Utah just to see the great salt lake, count on major disappointment. It reeks.
              If you there, go to the mountains just east of SLC. I wouldn't even do that though.
              Not in July. October is much better for the mountains.

              The lake doesn't reek, the rotting vegetation on the shoreline reeks. If you go out to Antelope Island, you don't get that reek........ as much.

              The island is the only reason to go near the lake, actually.

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              • #22
                There was very little snow in the mountains in a June, but it was pretty. The south is something like Wyoming, rock formations.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                  There was very little snow in the mountains in a June, but it was pretty. The south is something like Wyoming, rock formations.
                  I was born and raised among the southwestern Wyoming rock formations. I would not rcomment southern Wyoming or northern Utah on the first three or four road trips to the west by a person that has never been there.

                  If you know someone who lives in or near San Francisco, that's one of the best summer destinations in the west. Not usually hot, and a truly remarkable city. Not cheap, however, unless you can crash on someone's floor.

                  Not as up on Seattle, but it may be similar to San Francisco as long as you have bud or buds to put you up.
                  No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
                  "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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                  • #24
                    But the fourth or fifth time is good?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
                      But the fourth or fifth time is good?
                      Okay, okay. The thought was that once you've seen the big stuff (parks, cities, woods, resorts) then the rugged uniqueness of these areas becomes a more appealing option.

                      We all must prioritize!
                      No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
                      "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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                      • #26
                        Shouldn't this thread be merged with Asher's thread on spontaneous trips. I think so.
                        Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                        • #27
                          This isn't spontaneous.
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                          • #28
                            Lake Havasu in summer...oh that is the place to be.

                            Vegas has some decent prices, and you can go there with $300 and still have a great time, who needs a hotel room when you've got a perfectly good car to sleep in. Just fine a nice hotel's parking garage, hope no one realizes your there by parking near a big truck/SUV. Gamble on Fairmont street at the cheap casinos, get free booze while you gamble, and get great cheap food.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Asher View Post
                              This isn't spontaneous.

                              For some people a month is spontaneous.
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sprayber View Post
                                For some people a month is spontaneous.
                                This is about as spontaneous as I get.

                                But since my thread was first, I'll just delete Asher's thread.
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