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    How unusual is this?

    House, Senate Reach Tentative Budget Deal
    By David Clarke and Chuck Conlon, CQ Staff

    House and Senate negotiators have struck a tentative deal on major elements of the fiscal 2010 budget resolution that includes fast-track procedures for a health care overhaul and for legislation to curtail the role of private lenders in the federal student loan program.

    The compromise also would trim $10 billion from President Obama’s discretionary spending request, while allowing some additional spending for household energy assistance.

    The negotiators plan to hold a formal conference committee meeting April 27. Behind-the-scenes negotiations will continue Friday and through the weekend – and until all details are finalized the initial agreements could fall apart.

    Democratic leaders would like to have the final budget adopted next week as Obama marks his first 100 days in office.

    “There is still work to be done, people to be checked with,” said Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad , D-N.D. “Hopefully we can move forward next week.”

    The Senate voted on several motions to instruct conferees on Thursday. Meanwhile, White House negotiators — including Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter R. Orszag — were in the office of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid , D-Nev., along with House Budget Chairman John M. Spratt Jr. , D-S.C., Conrad said.

    The inclusion of reconciliation instructions for the health care and student loan initiatives will be a sore spot for Republicans. The fast-track procedure will make the resulting bills immune to filibuster in the Senate, significantly reducing the GOP’s leverage.

    Democrats contend they only want to use reconciliation as a fallback option and would prefer to move health care through the regular order. Republicans are highly skeptical the fast-track process won’t be used if available.

    Technically, the budget measure simply instructs committees to find a certain amount of deficit savings. Any policies can be pursued to meet the target, but Democrats plan to focus on health care and education.


    The budget is expected to instruct several committees — Finance and Health, Education, Labor and Pensions in the Senate and Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce, and Education and Labor in the House — to produce legislation later this year that would save $1 billion.

    This would allow health care and student loan legislation to be moved later in the year through reconciliation.

    The use of reconciliation and the amount of money to allocate to the annual appropriations bills have been the two biggest issues for negotiators to resolve. The House budget measure (H Con Res 85) contains reconciliation instructions, while the Senate budget (S Con Res 13) does not.

    Negotiators also have a tentative agreement on how much to dedicate to the 12 annual appropriations bills. It would allow for a spending cap that is $10 billion less than the president requested for these bills, while retaining a House provision that would allow an additional $1.9 billion to be spent on a low-income energy assistance program (LIHEAP).

    The Senate resolution included $15 billion less than the $1.096 trillion requested by the Obama administration, while the House resolution allocated about $7 billion less than Obama’s proposal.

    Conrad is against using the reconciliation process for policies other than deficit reduction bills. But congressional leaders and the White House at least want the option of using it to move a health care overhaul bill. Such legislation is a priority for Obama, and Democrats fear congressional Republicans will not cooperate with efforts to move it through the regular legislative process.

    One outstanding question is what Conrad may get in exchange for not standing in the way of reconciliation provisions.

    “Would I want things? Yeah,” Conrad said.

    Conrad and Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, the ranking Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, have long pushed for creating a task force that would write policy prescriptions for the government’s long-term budget problems that Congress would have to vote on.

    When asked if this proposal could in some way be part of a potential deal on the budget resolution, Conrad only would say that many things have been discussed.

    Conrad said negotiators have an agreement to assume the Alternative Minimum Tax will be “patched” for three years without being offset by revenue-raisers or spending cuts. This would help negotiators show a deficit that weighs in at 3 percent of Gross Domestic Product by the end of the five years covered by the resolution.

    Also as part of the tentative agreement, the budget would assume that preventing a cut in Medicare payments to physicians would not have to be offset over the first two years of the resolution.

    The final resolution also is expected to include a provision requiring the House to pass a bill that would enact the pay-as-you-go rule into law before it could pass legislation to extend certain tax policies without offsets.

    The House’s budget conferees are Spratt, Rosa DeLauro , D-Conn., Allen Boyd , D-Fla., Paul D. Ryan , R-Wis., and Jeb Hensarling , R-Texas. The Senate will send Conrad, Gregg and Patty Murray , D-Wash., to the conference.

    First posted April 23, 2009 11:26 p.m.


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  • #2
    Good to see the US may not be a Poland.
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    • #3
      Some of the legislation that the Republicans considered under reconciliation include:

      * 2005 - Legislation That Reduced Spending on Medicaid and Raised Premiums on Upper-Income Medicare Beneficiaries

      * 2003 - President Bush's 2003 Tax Cuts

      * 2001 - President Bush's Signature $1.35 Trillion Tax Cut

      * 2000 - $292 Billion "Marriage Penalty" Tax Cut (VETOED)

      * 1997 - Balanced Budget Act

      * 1996 - Legislation to Enact Welfare Reform

      * 1995 - "Contract With America" Agenda


      In other words, Republicans are being whiny little *****es.
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      • #4
        Not surprising nor do I care. Let the GOP reap what it has sown.
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        • #5
          This process was made for tax issues and budget issues. Not health care reform.
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          • #6
            No. The "original intent" of reconciliation is to facilitate deficit reduction (one of the reasons, incidentally, for health care reform). The entire reason why there's a sunset clause in the Bush tax cuts is to get around the bounds of reconciliation rules.

            In practice, the majority party uses reconciliation for everything it can get away with (giving a rather absurd amount of power to the Senate parliamentarian). Reconciliation exists because Congress would be a completely dysfunctional institution if 41 Senators could block everything.

            Republicans should stop whinging. Y'all lost. By devastating margins in two consecutive elections. This is supposed to taste like a **** sandwich. Be thankful that cap and trade isn't being considered under reconciliation.
            Last edited by Ramo; April 25, 2009, 11:34.
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            • #7
              This process is used very sparingly.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #8
                If by "sparingly," you mean most major pieces of legislation (see the list above - which includes Republican health care "reform"). Ok... I'm not sure what your point is.
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                • #9
                  Major overhauls of the health care system and the student lending system are unsuitable candidates for this process. The Democratic leadership may regret that they overused the process to bull rush the GOP on issues that require debate, hand-holding, discussion.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    Please. You're only saying that because you're eating the **** sandwich.

                    And student loan reform is exactly the kind of thing that reconciliation was originally created for. Simple and direct deficit reduction.

                    And Republicans are not in any position to argue about precedent with their rate of filibustering.
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                    • #11
                      I think the American people want a full debate about health care reform. I doubt they'll look too kindly on politicians trying to pull a fast one.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #12
                        The Democratic leadership may regret that they overused the process to bull rush the GOP on issues that require debate, hand-holding, discussion.


                        The last time the Democratic leadership dealt with the GOP in good faith, they killed heath care reform. There will be discussion, just not unlimited "discussion" (reconciliation rules will only be imposed if the Republicans continue obstructing past October 15th).
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                        -Bokonon

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                        • #13
                          I think the American people want a full debate about health care reform. I doubt they'll look too kindly on politicians trying to pull a fast one.


                          Do you think that the GOP was "pulling a fast one" in pushing the Bush tax cuts through reconciliation?
                          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                          • #14
                            The last time health care reform died, it was killed by industry, not the GOP. You know the commercial that killed it. And it killed it by persuading the public that it was something they didn't want.
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              Industry doesn't vote in the Senate. Republicans (and conservative Dems) who are tools of industry do.
                              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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